Had this for a few years now, times still going down the pan, racing out of the question - anyone else getting around with this?
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Had this for a few years now, times still going down the pan, racing out of the question - anyone else getting around with this?
We'll see...
Lots of stuff here..http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...ght=heart+rate
my take on it as a fell running cardiologist is there on the old thread but if I can answer any questions i'd be happy to
P
Cheers.
I'm looking for a (pretty minimal) training regime really. Have been doing 10 miles / 800ft on Sundays but I'm flaking out after 8 miles or so now. I'm thinking 3 x 5 miles a week more or less on the flat will be (a) do-able and (b) sort of enjoyable and perhaps will mean I can up the mileage / ascent later on.
Never been a hard core runner, but I would like to be able to do a bit at least.
Have you looked at the AF Association website (www.afa.org.uk)? I work in Patient Services and help moderate a very busy forum http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/A-F-A/ where there are quite a few endurance athletes who would be able to respond and share information.
It is an excellent source of information for anyone who has atrial fibrillation or cares for someone with this condition.
My friend Caz (forumite Happy on the Hills) suffers from this, he mentions it here http://preselibeast.wordpress.com/its-all-me-me-me/
Caz has recently done the BG, PB and Meiri rounds - he's early 40's so it is possible.
Can I add to the heart related questions?
I took part in a voluntary heart study 2 years ago and was told I'd got inverted t wave of about 2mm, the word lateral came up too. The study also involved using a heart ultrasound and all was fine on that. I left it a while but then followed this up recently, for reasons i won't go into here. The cardiologist ran a ct and i got a calcium score of zero. I'm told that's good. I've displayed no symptoms and have run plenty since, including hard races and I've done summer and winter BGRs in recent years.
The guys at the study said it was nothing to worry about but I remain slightly nervous and I can't put my finger on it. The cardiologist suggested I stop training for 6 weeks and we will see if there is a change in ECGs taken every two weeks. Going in for the ECGs makes me very anxious and 2weeks in, I'm wondering whether the anxiety is a) at risk of masking something/creating a false positive and b) worth the bother at all? I'm very tempted to just abandon it.
So my question is, given all else is normal and I feel fine and no other tests or examinations (he also gave me a good listening to via stethoscope) show a problem, what does an apparently shallow t wave inversion really mean?
Also, I get the feeling I'm being used as a lab rat but maybe I'm being unkind?
Any views much appreciated as its getting me rather anxious and hypersensitive!
Mark
So - normal echo, normal CT scan, no calcium, no abnormal heart noises, and presumably no symptoms ....... so we just have persisting shallow T wave inversion in the lateral leads. If it was me I would be very reluctant to stop running for 6 weeks - but it would be interesting to see if your ECG changed! Why not PM Paolo?
Have done so and the good doctor was ever so helpful :-) So, where are my running shoes? :)
I think your previous post just about covered it mike, ie nowt to worry about all those things consisted. The t wave abnormalities are not so unusual in trained people and given all other tests are ok, it's ignorable. Thankfully.
Hi Mark
I know where you are coming from. I've another trip to the Cardiolgists on Friday. I've hardly run in the last two months and certainly nothing at race pace. other injuries aside(ankle, knees and now my shoulder) plus the worry over my daughter I feel very nervous about going for a hard run. I constantly have the feeling of an imminent attack.
I have a place in the forth coming skyline and need to do something.
Going out tonight with dark peak as a social run. if all goes ok tonight and on Friday I'll try a race over the weekend.
cos a few people have asked and cos I don't want to clutter up other threads:
I came on with persistent (24/7) AF in the second week of December
if I try any even very gentle jogging I quickly become light-headed
I have no other underlying probs (diabetes, high blood pressure, thyroid)
I had an echo-cardiogram today and my heart has no other probs
so looks like I will be getting an "ablation" op jobby
"cryo" is the latest apparently - they send in balloons of liquid nitrogen and freeze the requisite areas!
good success rate apparently
seeing doc again next week - think he'll probably recommend the procedure
watch this space... ;)
Sounds like a good option. Very good luck. Having a sound heart that can be ablated successfully is one of your rewards for being a runner.
Good luck Daz. My partner Steve had Paroxysmal AF for a few years which was bearable when it was once a month or so but the incidences increased to several times a week so he went for the Ablation almost exactly a year ago. It seems to have been 100% successful and he has had no episodes since the op. He is now so much more confident and thoroughly enjoying his running again - a real pleasure to witness :-)
Daz, I was shocked when I read this. Best wishes and hope you get sorted out quickly.
Rob Baker (top fell runner from Dark Peak) had Fibrillations, starting after he'd come second at the Dragon's back in 2012 (not sure if there was a link between the two!) He had an ablation a few years back. He now lives in Australia and, whilst racing and training again isn't back to where he was before (2:26 marathon...) but still better than most!
Steve had the classic ablation with electrodes via a vein in his groin rather than the cryogenic technique. We asked his consultant about cryo but he didn't have experience of that. He was always very positive and reassuring and Steve had no hesitation in deciding to go ahead with the op. He was advised not to run for six weeks afterwards and so he wore his boots the weekend after his op when we reccy'd the Oldham Way Ultra so he wouldn't be tempted to run! Good luck
This isn't to let your heart recovery more to do with allowing all the scar tissue to heal properly.
I was told the heart was ok, they put me on aspirin for 8 weeks told no exercise for 4 then only light exercise for the next 4. they didn't want any blood clots or scabs breaking away.
Thanks Guys :)
seeing consultant again in 2 weeks (12th Feb)...
Blimey Daz!! Good luck with all this! Will you be up for the Bullock Smithy!!? :)
How's it going Daz? Hoping no news is good news?
Talk about tempting fate!!? ;)
booked in for something called "cardioversion" on 20th March
basically, they're going to try turning me off and on again - the doc even used the phrase "hard reset"(!)
sounds "interesting" but apparently a common/safe procedure that pretty much always puts your heart back into normal rhythm, but there's no way of telling how long it will stay like that...
All the best, Daz. Thinking of you.
Indeed Daz!! Good luck. Get back soon!!
Anna Karenina - great book - I don't understand the "negative press" it gets.
and another plus side, plenty of time to catch up with some of those old Bolt thrower cd's.
BG 2016 ?
apropos of nothing, the next seasonal Blue Moon is on 21st May 2016...