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    England not to score at the world cup.
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    So how come Arsenal turned Fabregas option down. Too expensive or still not forgiven him for leaving ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos the Jackal View Post
    England not to score at the world cup.
    Of course one of them will score, there's plenty of WAGS going...

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    Anyone else get the Suns 'This is our England' supplement shoved through the door yesterday? In a poll commissioned by the Sun to find Britains greatest living person, Ant and Dec came 9th

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    Another reason not to vote Labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeathens View Post


    Another reason not to vote Labour.
    The biggest reason not to vote for him, Cameron or any other upper-class political twit who refers to the world cup is because they are NOT football supporters. Never were, never will be. Stick to rugger boys. You're just jumping on a bandwagon.

    See, I remember the days when I was strongly advised NOT to put "football" on my cv as a hobby, because those in "responsible" positions in companies were very anti-football. Now, it seems they all supported Arsenal/Chelsea/ManU/Man City/Tottenham from when they were a little boy, and putting football on your cv and having an in-depth discussion about this season at your interview will get you the job!

    Back to the real thing and, as evidence of all these "new" supporters talking sh1te, all football talk today seems to be dominated by that nasty referee giving Brazil a penalty they didn't deserve. Now, if you're a proper football fan, who understands the game and watched and played it from being a wee boy, your gripe with last night's game is not so much the awarding of the penalty (he did have hands on him) but the diabolical decision to disallow the perfectly good Croatia goal minutes later, for who knows what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr1470 View Post

    Back to the real thing and, as evidence of all these "new" supporters talking sh1te, all football talk today seems to be dominated by that nasty referee giving Brazil a penalty they didn't deserve. Now, if you're a proper football fan, who understands the game and watched and played it from being a wee boy, your gripe with last night's game is not so much the awarding of the penalty (he did have hands on him) but the diabolical decision to disallow the perfectly good Croatia goal minutes later, for who knows what.
    Not sure about thatů it was a never a penalty. Yes he did lay a hand on him, but come on, that happens every time the ball is in the box, there was minimal contact.

    Refs and FIFA need to sort this out, they sporadically award penalties for holding, yet allow it 99% of the time, Vidic was awful for it, it works so they do it, then randomly they award penalties for it.

    But that was so minimal it was incredible. Remember the Korean games, dodgy decisions, FIFA are just a horrid organisation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Head View Post
    Anyone else get the Suns 'This is our England' supplement shoved through the door yesterday? In a poll commissioned by the Sun to find Britains greatest living person, Ant and Dec came 9th
    Got mine today. Heavy use of the first person plural personal pronoun. I must admit I didn't know that Sun readers had abolished slavery, defeated Napoleon and invented the WWW
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    Quote Originally Posted by IainR View Post
    Not sure about that… it was a never a penalty. Yes he did lay a hand on him, but come on, that happens every time the ball is in the box, there was minimal contact.

    Refs and FIFA need to sort this out, they sporadically award penalties for holding, yet allow it 99% of the time, Vidic was awful for it, it works so they do it, then randomly they award penalties for it.

    But that was so minimal it was incredible. Remember the Korean games, dodgy decisions, FIFA are just a horrid organisation...
    No, I agree with you Iain - for any real football fan, that's not a penalty. But in the context of the modern game, you just can't put your hands on people in that way because you leave yourself open to the possibility of a penalty. The Croatia disallowed goal however, there was no contact by the player on the goalkeeper. The only contact was the goalie's momentum carrying him into the player. Under no circumstances, even these days, could that be construed as a foul, unless a law is now introduced to say that a player may not jump within X yards of a keeper.

    Of course, in the context of the modern game, the player who scored 2 goals should not have been on the pitch by then - a clear sending-off with modern interpretations. Personally, I preferred the old days, where such an action would have seen the opposition centre-half and hard-man deal with the matter in his own inimitable way
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr1470 View Post
    No, I agree with you Iain - for any real football fan, that's not a penalty. But in the context of the modern game, you just can't put your hands on people in that way because you leave yourself open to the possibility of a penalty. The Croatia disallowed goal however, there was no contact by the player on the goalkeeper. The only contact was the goalie's momentum carrying him into the player. Under no circumstances, even these days, could that be construed as a foul, unless a law is now introduced to say that a player may not jump within X yards of a keeper.

    Of course, in the context of the modern game, the player who scored 2 goals should not have been on the pitch by then - a clear sending-off with modern interpretations. Personally, I preferred the old days, where such an action would have seen the opposition centre-half and hard-man deal with the matter in his own inimitable way
    That's the modern game though, the keepers just cannot be approached, if there's any contact it's a foul.. I thought it should have stood, but its pretty common now.

    In the UK we still allow a lot more contact, its like Sterlings red card, in the premier league he'd have had a booking, Valencia's reaction influenced the ref, but in europe you do go for things like that. It's like Nani's red card against Madrid last season, never a red in the premiership but you go for things like that in Europe..

    Its why De Gea took a while to adapt, the keepers still need to go through the man in the premiership to get to a cross, whereas in Spain he could just run into the attacker and get a free kick..

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