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    Thanks for your support in my difficult time.

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    Half way through the next book, 'The Field' by Lynne McTaggart, the weird gets weirder.

    It's been quite useful to start to learn about the mechanics and determinants of human behaviour. There are no quick and easy answers anywhere, but the very process of this self-education seems to be enlightening in some respect.

    Consciousness it seems is quantum not biochemical. Nobody has conducted a specific experiment to confirm it once and for all, but countless other studies in fields like Biology and Quantum Physics have all pointed strongly in this direction. Consciousness is everywhere, not just in the brain. It is attractor patterns in elementary particles, some generated by ourselves, some sourced from an infinite energy source called the Zero Point Field which bahaves like a database of human consciousness. The Zero Point Field is the subject of Heisenberg's 'Uncertainty Principal', though he didn't know it at the time.

    If my inclinations are right, it seems as though a person who is depressed can be repaired to a certain degree by copying the way other people interact with the Field and elementary particles. The Field and the quantum nature of our own consciousness posess a quality called 'Nonlocality' which means cells can copy others without being near them. An Experimental Biophysicist called Popp discovered that cells in developing foetuses communicate using Photons, not hormones or other chemicals, to form the shape of the finished animal. This is the way that a leg becomes a leg, not an arm, and how a hand is on the end of an arm not a leg. By socialising with other people, nonlocality will enable your own cells to copy and learn from the manner in which the cells of other people manipulate the Field and interact with elementary particles such as Photons. The healthy have an innate ability to repair the unhealthy without actually doing anything.

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    interesting stuff, so what is a ghost ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by foggon View Post
    interesting stuff, so what is a ghost ?
    Well, firstly let me be clear that the following is just my own scientific mind speculating on the consequences of new information. Nothing more than the subjective. The brain doesn't see with electrical signals alone, it converts what you see into quantum interference waves, which are the language of the Field. This is where the research papers lose me a bit- it has to do this in order to facilitate memory, which isn't actually in the brain, but in the Zero Point Field. The brain acts as an encoder which commits data to the Field and uses it as a database. This database is what facilitates the acquisition of random information by means of Kinesiologic Muscle Testing, as demonstrated in double blind trials carried out by Dr David Hawkins' team over the course of 15yrs of research. If the brain and the Field both talk in the same language then the exchange of data can be reciprocative, and aspects of the Field can 'hack' the brain. It's my opinion that a ghost is interference waves in the field existing as a result of someone elses consciousness now inhabiting the Field, not their now long-gone body, accessing the mind of a living body. The visualisation of this is the result of the fact that the brain has to convert interference waves recieved in the visual system back into electrical signals and feed them back to the retinas. Apparently it has to do this in order to facilitate spatial awareness and 3D vision, some kind of feedback mechanism.

    People have done all sorts of animal experiments on this subject, severing 99% of a cat's optic nerve does not cause it to lose 99% of its vision. Some guy systematically burned out every part of a rat's brain, on successive subjects not the same one, and they always remembered where the food was. He never was able to locate and destroy the part of the brain where memory is; because it isn't in the brain it's in the Field.

    I recently read that the Zero Point Field has enough energy in 1m3 to boil all the water on earth; and that the contents of the Library of Congress, if stored in the Field, would occupy a space the size of a sugar cube.

    I can imagine that this subject isn't something everyone's going to believe or even like, but it feels coherent and right for me. To deny it in the face of what i have read would be similar in scope to saying, "meteorites don't exist because stones don't come from the sky".
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    Cheers for that Mr B bit over my head tbh , but will read through it a few times

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    Luke, just reading and attempting to understand that makes me depressed. I think that I'll opt for "just getting on with life".

    I often wonder if some of these "experts" just confuse us into deeper depression as a means of self-perpetuating their own careers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr brightside View Post
    Well, firstly let me be clear that the following is just my own scientific mind speculating on the consequences of new information. Nothing more than the subjective. The brain doesn't see with electrical signals alone, it converts what you see into quantum interference waves, which are the language of the Field. This is where the research papers lose me a bit- it has to do this in order to facilitate memory, which isn't actually in the brain, but in the Zero Point Field. The brain acts as an encoder which commits data to the Field and uses it as a database. This database is what facilitates the acquisition of random information by means of Kinesiologic Muscle Testing, as demonstrated in double blind trials carried out by Dr David Hawkins' team over the course of 15yrs of research. If the brain and the Field both talk in the same language then the exchange of data can be reciprocative, and aspects of the Field can 'hack' the brain. It's my opinion that a ghost is interference waves in the field existing as a result of someone elses consciousness now inhabiting the Field, not their now long-gone body, accessing the mind of a living body. The visualisation of this is the result of the fact that the brain has to convert interference waves recieved in the visual system back into electrical signals and feed them back to the retinas. Apparently it has to do this in order to facilitate spatial awareness and 3D vision, some kind of feedback mechanism.

    People have done all sorts of animal experiments on this subject, severing 99% of a cat's optic nerve does not cause it to lose 99% of its vision. Some guy systematically burned out every part of a rat's brain, on successive subjects not the same one, and they always remembered where the food was. He never was able to locate and destroy the part of the brain where memory is; because it isn't in the brain it's in the Field.

    I recently read that the Zero Point Field has enough energy in 1m3 to boil all the water on earth; and that the contents of the Library of Congress, if stored in the Field, would occupy a space the size of a sugar cube.

    I can imagine that this subject isn't something everyone's going to believe or even like, but it feels coherent and right for me. To deny it in the face of what i have read would be similar in scope to saying, "meteorites don't exist because stones don't come from the sky".
    I was a bit of an oddball until I was abducted by aliens; but I'm perfectly OK now!

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    Mr B, Zero Point Field is a fascinating explanation of everything I have intuitively felt about the so called mysteries of live like what is heaven, how does acupuncture work, how do magicians work, what is Chi etc etc. Great find...thanks! It really makes absolute sense. Quantum is such a mind bending subject but you gotta try to understand.
    How that helps with your depression is not entirely clear to me but anything has got to better than the drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheezing donkey View Post
    Luke, just reading and attempting to understand that makes me depressed. I think that I'll opt for "just getting on with life".

    I often wonder if some of these "experts" just confuse us into deeper depression as a means of self-perpetuating their own careers?
    Ian.
    Hey Ian, of the guys who've researched this area of science- Fritz-Albert Popp, Hal Puthoff, Karl Pribram- how many of them has anyone heard of? Those 3 are just a handful. They've mostly found grant money by whoring themselves to some intended military application of some sort, though NASA have funded a few on a propulsion research basis. Their papers have been met with no applause by the scientific community at large, though due to the validity of their work, they have recieved no scorn just a wall of silence. To fundamentally accept what they have found would mean huge changes in policy and direction, it's easier for the powers that be to just turn a blind eye, and to press they have conveniently considered all Zero Point Field work as "Lacking in context or paradigm".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeze View Post
    Mr B, Zero Point Field is a fascinating explanation of everything I have intuitively felt about the so called mysteries of live like what is heaven, how does acupuncture work, how do magicians work, what is Chi etc etc. Great find...thanks! It really makes absolute sense. Quantum is such a mind bending subject but you gotta try to understand.
    How that helps with your depression is not entirely clear to me but anything has got to better than the drugs.
    Simon, it's not at all clear to me either. It can't hurt to work the problem from a new angle, the only thing i have to lose is my depression and my anxiety.

    Zero Point Field theory feels very right and coherent to me. I've learnt to trust my feelings, and learnt why they can be trusted and how they can be applied to problem solving.
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    I love the idea that thoughts have energy and therefore can be considered as matter...puts a whole new spin on 'concrete thoughts' doesn't it? My old man always taught me to use the benefits of positive thinking.

    Mind you, the worst of this is that maybe there is something in the 'cosmic ordering' that Noel Edmonds spouts on about!!!
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