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    Border Collie Pup

    I have 1 remaining border collie pup (bitch) for sale.. she is mostly white with a bit of black on her face and back.

    She is looking for a new home and is ready to go on the 21st August.

    £300 with a deposit required

    07791 175 206 or PM me

    Thanks Phil
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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    Hi I'm guessing at that price she's registered?

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    no she's not KC registered.. KC registered pups are bringing £500
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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    I would advise no one to buy this puppy. Every single person who buys a pup from a breeder contributes to the death of thousands of healthy dogs by pushing market forces in the direction of more dogs. We already have an excess running into the hundreds of thousands in the UK, and three times that number in the Republic of Ireland. I've heard 15 years of rationalisations for breeding and buying puppies, and never once a reason that couldn't be countered by re-homing one of the many surplus. Those of you reading this who breed and buy puppies, spare a thought for the people who pick up the pieces of the situation you create- giving lethal injections to healthy dogs, bagging them up and incinerating them, or watching them imprisoned in cells for life because the 'animal-loving' public doesn't like rescue centres who have a destruction policy.

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    Totally agree with Longdogs. Stay well clear. Unregistered dog - no Health tests, Hip scores, Eye tests, no knowledge of blood lines or health issues. I take it as a "breeder" you issue a contract and will always take back the Pup if it ever becomes unwanted to your home and look after it for it's entire life as that is what GOOD BREEDERS do? Your pup has no proven Work or Showing abilities i guess, so why breed? Well cos you think it's a good way of making a bit of cash. Far too many dogs in rescue centres because of people like you. "Breeders" have a waiting list for their pups with homes lined up before the pups are even born. Makes me so mad!

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    Quote Originally Posted by vburke View Post
    Totally agree with Longdogs. Stay well clear. Unregistered dog - no Health tests, Hip scores, Eye tests, no knowledge of blood lines or health issues. I take it as a "breeder" you issue a contract and will always take back the Pup if it ever becomes unwanted to your home and look after it for it's entire life as that is what GOOD BREEDERS do? Your pup has no proven Work or Showing abilities i guess, so why breed? Well cos you think it's a good way of making a bit of cash. Far too many dogs in rescue centres because of people like you. "Breeders" have a waiting list for their pups with homes lined up before the pups are even born. Makes me so mad!
    Actually that isn't true for everyone. My old bitch may not be from a registered line but I can trace her family back generations. I had 3 litters out of her & bar one pup I'm still in contact with every one. She was from a good working strain but looked more a house dog when we went to view her. I bred her because she has a wonderful temperment & I chose a good working dog for her to go with. All my pups had checks & I offered to take a pups back should circumstances change. I only had to do this once & rehomed him at 7 months. With being intouch with the new owners I know her line hasn't shown any eye or hip problems I many have proven themselves as working dogs. However saying all that I do understand that there are many out there not as careful as me & there poor pups end up in rescue before their a year old. Oh & I didn't charge £300 for mine either.

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    Quote Originally Posted by vburke View Post
    Totally agree with Longdogs. Stay well clear. Unregistered dog - no Health tests, Hip scores, Eye tests, no knowledge of blood lines or health issues. I take it as a "breeder" you issue a contract and will always take back the Pup if it ever becomes unwanted to your home and look after it for it's entire life as that is what GOOD BREEDERS do? Your pup has no proven Work or Showing abilities i guess, so why breed? Well cos you think it's a good way of making a bit of cash. Far too many dogs in rescue centres because of people like you. "Breeders" have a waiting list for their pups with homes lined up before the pups are even born. Makes me so mad!
    Personally I'd never buy from a breeder. All my dogs have been rescue dogs. We had 7 pups from one (pregnant when we got her), we asked for a £50 donation, but I'd have a scallie mongrel collie over a pure bred anyday. I know what the longevity data shows..

    Look at the KC. Come on don't play the breeders care card, some do many don't. Many care about appearances - not health. Hence dogs which yelp due to a brain too large for their skull, dogs with ear problems, hip problems..

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    I will try and give you a good reason why I didn't get a rescue dog. My wife and I wanted to get a dog from our local rescue centre. We were told we wouldn't be allowed one as there would be nobody at home full time with the dog, we tried to explain that the dog would be on it's own for more than four or five hours at the very most as my mum would have it in the afternoon, every day.
    I do agree however that puppy farming is a despicable way of earning money, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Breeders" as there are a number of websites out there for people who want to buy pups and they are readily available from working and show stock.
    Last edited by Graeme78; 09-08-2010 at 09:39 PM.

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    Breed rescues tend to have quite a good understanding of what sort of homes to place dogs in and can be more "lenient" with their placements. They often have more time to come out Homecheck and actually speak with you and get to know how a dog they placed with you would fit in with your lifestyle and work. Most people who do the homechecks are volunteers and want what is best for their fave breed of dog. Yes you may have to travel a long way - we live in Accrington and had to collect our rescue girl from Bristol so maybe particular breed rescue would work better than a local rescue?

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    Re: Borber Collie Pup

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme78 View Post
    I will try and give you a good reason why I didn't get a rescue dog. My wife and I wanted to get a dog from our local rescue centre. We were told we wouldn't be allowed one as there would be nobody at home full time with the dog, we tried to explain that the dog would be on it's own for more than four or five hours at the very most as my mum would have it in the afternoon, every day.
    I do agree however that puppy farming is a despicable way of earning money, I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Breeders" as there are a number of websites out there for people who want to buy pups and they are readily available from working and show stock.
    I would never leave my collie for 5 hours and certainly the fact you said your mum would be having the dog wouldn't go down well at the rescue centre

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