Yes. Sorry.Originally Posted by david
Yes. Sorry.
I second Manhar, would love to finish sub 4 1/2 hours!
I've run 4 1/2 for Tanky's (when I wasn't as fit as I am now) so will keep my fingers crossed and hope it's a good day on PPP day....
For comparison, last year I ran:
Edale Skyline (21 miles/4500ft ascent) 4:04
Three Peaks (24 miles/5000ft) 4:08
Tanky's Trog (22 miles/4700ft) 4:15
According to that race card I was on for about 3:15 at ribblehead. That didn't happen I can tell you.
At inglebourough I was on for over 4hrs and then at the finish I'd done 3:56. I run it to my strengths or weaknesses. I'm not the worlds best climber so my tactic last year was to go off hard and take advantage of what I'm good at the flat and descents so some sections are at 3:hr pace and some are at over 4hr pace. Last year I was in the 60's at ribblehead and finished 119th. It fell apart not because I'd gone too fast but because my blood sugar hit rock bottom on inglebourough and was seeing visions of myself sat on the rock next to me. As soon as a lad I new gave me an energy gel I was back on and running well again. Lesson learnt was for me not to try Jelly Babies but to have them SIS Go Gel jobbies. That said I'll settle for 3:56 again this year. Roll on the 26th.
In my first PPP (mid 90s) I lost 80 places on the descent from Ingleborough, going from 50odd to 130odd to finish in 3.55. This was because my previous longest run had been two and a half hours and because in spite of drinking what I thought was a lot of water on the way round, I got massively dehydrated and had to beg water from spectators going through Sulber Nick.
In my experience the only hard and fast rule about the schedule is that if you try to pick up a lot of time over one section you'll lose it on another.
In my third PPP I decided to run the PYG to RH section several minutes quicker than th previous year. I managed to do this with no problems, but lost time on the climbs of WH and Ing and my finishing time was hardly any different.
The only time I have ever had a quick run in from Ingleborough was in a year when I was racing against a clubmate all the way from the top and after passing and repassing each other we finished just one second apart at the finish.
if I can't see blencathra it's raining
if I can see blencathra it's going to rain
I know I can get to Ribblehead in or around the 1 hour 50 and a bit mark but, in the past (running seriously unfit to be fair) Whernside has always killed me and cramped me up. If I can get to the top of Whenside in 2:30 then I reckon I'll be good for a 4:15 finish and this is my sort of target on the day.
Hi Stolly, Do we go up Pen-y-Ghent the same way we come down ? 850 runners, could be a dodgy.
It took me nearly 45 minutes to stagger up ingleborough last year then the descent to horton took 37. Time wise I think my times place wise were 100ish on pyg 40ish on the pyg to ribblehead, 100ish up and down whernside 300ish on ingleborough and back around the 100 mark on the way back in. I'm not a good climber and the steepness and lack of glucose killed me on the ingleborough. I'm lucky I don't seem to get much cramp. Did a road marathon the month before and only cramped in the last 800m it was 27degrees at the time and on the 3p's had no problems at all other than the lack of energy. If I get my food and fluid right I should do ok. Just hope the weather ain't too bad
Yes but its fantastic to see the front of the field rush past - they tend to stick to their right, slightly off the main path.Hi Stolly, Do we go up Pen-y-Ghent the same way we come down ? 850 runners, could be a dodgy.
Last edited by Stolly; 10-04-2008 at 03:08 PM.
I read the excellent race programme today and saw that the race is sponsored by Northern Rail. Great methinks - I won't have a car, so I'll get the train to Horton. Everyone's a winner.
Having looked at the timetable (http://www.northernrail.org/pdfs/timetables/200712/07.pdf) there are two trains from Skipton to Horton all morning - arriving at 0724 or 1000. So that means I either get there 2.5 hours early or I miss the start.
What a wasted sponsorship! They ought to put on a fellrunners train from Skipton or Steeton and Silsden. It would be a great environmental message, it would be a fun journey for all, it would alleviate the parking problems in Horton and it would make the train company look like a real part of the community.
Anyone got a spare seat in their car?!
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