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    Ban the Bob Graham?

    Aside from the fact this will be seen by most as a wind up.

    Is there a serious need to consider this for environmental reason. Posts on this thread often talk about how trods or unmarked ways are now worn to motorway proportions. Also though I appreciate it is a substantial challenge has it become overly popular?

    An option could be to say that times will not be recognised from say 2013 to 2018. To give things to recover, I appreciate that many paths will still be used as part of other routes and some people will still do it, but if it is not recognised it will not have the same kudos.

    People who want to do it can still do it in the future and those who feel it will be to late in 2017 will have 2 years to do it.

    This could also apply to other races - the FRA could organise a rolling programme of races in overused areas that could be rested for periods of time.

    Worth serious consideration?
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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    No worries AS.
    If we dont make the trods the sheep will.
    Live and let live and most of all enjoy.
    We only pass this way once.

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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    No worries AS.
    If we dont make the trods the sheep will.
    Live and let live and most of all enjoy.
    We only pass this way once.

    its the number of us that do pass through though.
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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Maybe you have to look at it in terms on relative environmental damage?

    Create trails through top level jungle, catastrophic levels of damage to habitats and environment.

    Create trails in the UK over the hills, very small amount of damage to habitats and environment.


    Many people are concerned about erosion, but how many actually understand anything about the level of effects it has?

    That is why people jump to rash decisions, for example, an out-right ban.

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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Tell you what, why don't we all park our arses on the sofa and get unhealthy and fat, that should put a bit more burden on the NHS. The fells are there to enjoy without imposing rules - there are enough things in the world to worry about! You really must apply for a position with the fun police.

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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    Tell you what, why don't we all park our arses on the sofa and get unhealthy and fat, that should put a bit more burden on the NHS. The fells are there to enjoy without imposing rules - there are enough things in the world to worry about! You really must apply for a position with the fun police.
    Agree, but he'd fail the entrance exam for the fun police.
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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Quote Originally Posted by ukhursty View Post
    Maybe you have to look at it in terms on relative environmental damage?

    Create trails through top level jungle, catastrophic levels of damage to habitats and environment.

    Create trails in the UK over the hills, very small amount of damage to habitats and environment.


    Many people are concerned about erosion, but how many actually understand anything about the level of effects it has?

    That is why people jump to rash decisions, for example, an out-right ban.
    Ban was a contentious word used to get people to read the thread, but what the thread is suggesting is resting the land in line with current environmental policy.

    eg Do we need so many races up Pendle Hill?
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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joanne View Post
    Tell you what, why don't we all park our arses on the sofa and get unhealthy and fat, that should put a bit more burden on the NHS.
    Childish - unless you are a nurse touting for work - worried about the cuts are we.
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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    Quote Originally Posted by Antisocial View Post

    eg Do we need so many races up Pendle Hill?
    So more people can get to the top:thumbup:

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    Re: Ban the Bob Graham?

    I appreciate all the arguments about "freedom on the fells" but I think Antisocial makes an interesting point. I've never done the Bob Graham, not even a leg, but you do hear about the trods which mark the route. Is there much difference between these trods and actually flagging the route?

    Surely Antisocial's idea would allow the route to recover and the trods to grow over thus making the navigation as hard as it was pre-trod and a purer challenge.

    One of the things that attracted me to fell running was the self-regulating nature of the sport. When we race we pride ourselves on being able to take responsibility for ourselves. Perhaps we need to take more responsibility of the fells we run on.
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