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    Doping row continues

    Some big news last night in relation to the ongoing doping investigations into a number of cyclists and teams. Tyler Hamilton has come out and admitted his guilt, and as a result handed over his olympic gold medal back to the IOC. He's also implicated Lance Armstrong in a pretty big way. And it appears that George Hincappie is also supporting Hamilton's statemens. Going to be interesting to see where this goes. Has Armstrong been guilty and getting away with it all this time? If found guilty are his victories in the tour going to be removed from him and passed on to second place? It sure is a rocky future ahead for the pro tour.

    The following is a report from ESPN on Tyler Hamilton:

    LAUSANNE, Switzerland -- Tyler Hamilton turned over his 2004 cycling gold medal to the United States Anti-Doping Agency on Friday, putting Russian Viatcheslav Ekimov in line for an upgrade from silver.

    The International Olympic Committee had said it could strip Hamilton of his time trial gold at the Athens Olympics after he told CBS' "60 Minutes" he doped and said Lance Armstrong did as well. But USADA released a statement Friday saying Hamilton had already handed over the medal.

    "USADA continues its ongoing investigation into the sport of cycling,'' USADA CEO Travis Tygart said in an emailed statement. "Where there is credible evidence of doping, a fair and thorough process exists for resolving such violations. We do not comment on the substance of an active investigation, but as always we remain committed to protecting the rights of clean athletes and preserving the integrity of sport."

    Tygart added: "As stated by the IOC, I can confirm that Tyler Hamilton has given his gold medal from the 2004 Athens Olympic Games to USADA and that we will continue to work with the IOC and the USOC as appropriate concerning the final implications of our overall investigation."

    The IOC can retroactively strip Olympic medals if proof of doping emerges later or an athlete admits to cheating. The IOC took away Marion Jones' five medals from the 2000 Sydney Games after she admitted using performance-enhancing drugs.

    The IOC had provisionally investigated Hamilton for doping after he won in 2004. An initial test at the Athens Games suggested the American had received an endurance-boosting blood transfusion. But the case was dropped after his backup sample was mistakenly frozen, leaving too few red blood cells to analyze.

    In the interview with "60 Minutes," which will be aired more extensively Sunday, Hamilton said that he saw Armstrong use performance-enhancing drugs, including the banned blood-booster erythropoietin, in 1999 and two subsequent seasons to help prepare for the Tour de France.

    "I saw (EPO) in his refrigerator .. I saw him inject it more than one time like we all did, like I did many, many times," Hamilton told Scott Pelley of "60 Minutes." "(Armstrong) took what we all took ... the majority of the peloton. There was EPO ... testosterone ... a blood transfusion."

    "20+ year career. 500 drug controls worldwide, in and out of competition. Never a failed test. I rest my case," Armstrong tweeted Thursday night.

    Armstrong told The Daily Beast website Friday that "60 Minutes" "basically reneged" on promises made to him, saying he "would not call (the '60 Minutes' producer) a straight shooter."

    CBS News chairman Jeff Fager, who is also executive producer of "60 Minutes," told The Daily Beast: "We have been so thorough and fair to Lance Armstrong."

    Fager added: "We have shared with them every single allegation in our story ... This is a PR game. Our reporters have done a first-class job."

    Hamilton, 40, wrote and sent a letter Thursday -- also provided to ESPN.com -- to his close friends and family in what he called a "long overdue" confession, admitting to his own doping history after years of vigorous denials.

    "During my cycling career, I knowingly broke the rules," Hamilton wrote. "I used performance-enhancing drugs. I lied about it, over and over. Worst of all, I hurt people I care about. And while there are reasons for what I did -- reasons I hope you'll understand better after watching ('60 Minutes') -- it doesn't excuse the fact that I did it all, and there's no way on earth to undo it."

    Hamilton, who retired in April 2009 after announcing he had knowingly committed a second doping offense, had previously described his own and his famous teammate's alleged doping in six hours of closed-door testimony before a federal grand jury after being subpoenaed last July.

    Hamilton told his family and friends in the letter that testifying before the grand jury felt like "the Hoover Dam breaking." In addition to clearing his own conscience, he said he elected to be interviewed by "60 Minutes" because he hopes it will help bring long-term change to a sport plagued by scandal, dishonesty and corruption.

    Also Friday, two former Armstrong teammates told The Associated Press that they never saw Armstrong or Hamilton use banned substances. But Pascal Derame, a Frenchman who was on the 1999 Tour-winning team with Armstrong and Hamilton, said he wasn't in Armstrong's "inner circle."

    "I never saw (Armstrong) take anything," Derame said. "I cannot say what I didn't see."

    Another former teammate of Armstrong and Hamilton, Steffen Kjaergaard of Norway, rode on U.S. Postal's Tour de France team in 2000 and 2001.

    "I didn't feel any pressure of doing any prohibited thing to be stronger, to do doping," Kjaergaard said. "I didn't have any hints, 'You should do this. You should do that.'"

    The Russian Olympic Committee failed in a 2006 appeal to the Court of Arbitration for Sport to have Hamilton's gold given to Ekimov, Hamilton's former U.S. Postal Service teammate.

    Ekimov, a longtime member of Armstrong's U.S. Postal and Discovery Channel teams, already has two Olympic golds. He won in track team pursuit at the 1988 Seoul Olympics, when the Soviet Union edged East Germany for gold. At the 2000 Sydney Olympics, he won the road time trial ahead of silver medalist Jan Ullrich and Armstrong in third for bronze.

    Armstrong posted a message for Ekimov on his Twitter page late Thursday.

    "Congratulations to @eki-ekimov on his 3rd Olympic Gold Medal!!" the seven-time Tour de France champion wrote.
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    Shame really.

    Like he says. He was tested more than ANYONE, and never failed, besides that hic-up with the skin cream one time

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    Tyler has a book due out then:thumbup:

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    It appears to be a hear say smoke screen to partially deflect the blame.
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    Anyone who seriously believes that any of the top riders throughout the 90's werent religously doping is proper naive like, the sport is a sham and its one I used to love.

    These revelations/allegations about LA are nothing new, dont know how he managed to avoid detection so well, but that is his true achievemnet

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheReverand View Post
    Anyone who seriously believes that any of the top riders throughout the 90's werent religously doping is proper naive like, the sport is a sham and its one that I used to love.
    Not sure why all the doping issues have changed your love for the sport, after all it's always been a problem. Or did you just prefer it when it was a given that everyone took speed so it was ok?
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    Why don't they have two classes? Similar to mens and womens classes, they could have a druggie class and a clean class and at least put it out in the open. I don't really understand why people bother though, what's the point winning if you're going to do it by cheating?

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    A part of me isn't bothered now whether Lance doped or not

    I loved his first book and read it constantly for inspiration. In a strange way I've come to accept that he might have used drugs and the possibility has slowly sunk in

    Drugs in cycling is a bit like drugs in rock music. They've always been there, many of the protagonists took them and I suspect they'll always be there
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    There seems something a little bit snidey about someone who gets caught, then coming out and flinging mud in other people's direction to clear his conscience.

    Tyler Hamilton is now a proven cheat, liar and deceiver.

    Why should he now be believed?

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    Im guessing part of the reason people are changing there stories is them not wanting to commit purgory.

    Rumour mill (eurosport) stated a short while ago that now George Hincapie has also admitted taking and witnessing/supplying/being supplied by Lance Armstrong. I think I heard that right anyway, supposed to be a leaked teaser about the forthcoming 60 minutes show (CBS network?)

    Im not so bothered about Lance doping, if he has done. But if it is proven then the holier than holy stance will be a little rich. Not that I agree and want to see doping as part of the sport, but top level riders have been at it since very early on in the sport.

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