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    Re: Navigation for fell runnin

    Hat,

    I think the conclusion is:
    • That the principles of navigation are the same.
    • When walking you can forget the map for longish periods as it's going to take some time to get to the next handrail/collection point. When running it pays to hold the map with the thumb at your approximate location and keep the map oriented to the ground.
    • Navigation to a point and knowing which is the quickest way to a point (ie route choice) are not exactly the same thing. You can be very good at the first, but hopeless at the latter!

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    Re: Navigation for fell runnin

    Quote Originally Posted by Brotherton Lad View Post
    This means I've had very few orienteering experiences that I could describe as entirely happy and satisfactory. Fell running, though, tends to be more enjoyable.
    That's surely the same as any event though? I'm never happy. There's a race I'll never do again as I was so ashamed as to how I ran and hated it..I won.. but there was 0 pride in having done so as I knew I'd had a shocker... my time compared to the record showed that.

    However normally realistic post race analysis is good...

    I like doing the score events though and the MMM's. I can navigate well, as in A to B and well enough that it doesn't seem to hinder my racing, but when I do MM's it reminds me how much I can improve. I'm not fluid enough in route choice, when you run with top MM's they are quicker on their calls.

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    Re: Navigation for fell runnin

    It's about 20 years since I've been right up at the front in races (and that was marathon), so I can still enjoy a steady plod on the fells. With orienteering, there's always an error to annoy me.

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    Re: Navigation for fell runnin

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    Re: Navigation for fell runnin

    Thanks, all basic common sense stuff.

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    For me part of navigation during races is recognition of the fact that they are a game we play for fun - therefore its part of that game to try different things that are actually a bit of a gamble. You can try different lines, direct routes, longer flatter sections instead of climbs etc and they might or might not get you a bit of time or a few places depending on the day and other peoples own choices. In 3 Shires I know a place where crossing back over to the 'wrong side' of the ridge on the descent to the 3 Shires stone usually gets me a few places - I tried it this year and it didn't because others on the usual path were running more quickly and confidently in better visibility and I actually crossed about 200 yards too early. So I made a mess of it - but like a lot of things it didn't really matter because this is all just a game.

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    Re: Navigation for fell runnin

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    For me part of navigation during races is recognition of the fact that they are a game we play for fun - therefore its part of that game to try different things that are actually a bit of a gamble. You can try different lines, direct routes, longer flatter sections instead of climbs etc and they might or might not get you a bit of time or a few places depending on the day and other peoples own choices. In 3 Shires I know a place where crossing back over to the 'wrong side' of the ridge on the descent to the 3 Shires stone usually gets me a few places - I tried it this year and it didn't because others on the usual path were running more quickly and confidently in better visibility and I actually crossed about 200 yards too early. So I made a mess of it - but like a lot of things it didn't really matter because this is all just a game.
    :thumbup:True. Its not just fun, it can be funny. If you ever see me trying to read a map, you will probably pish yourself laughing.

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