Joss Naylor Challenge reccy

[RobW]

Any chance of seeing a copy of Phil Hodgson's description?

It exceeds the 19.5kb filesize (a massive 36kb!) but if you pm me your email I can send it to you

[Baggins]

Well, nice day for a recce!! If we are sure that the ESE cairn is higher (the authoritative http://www.hill-bagging.co.uk/mounta...p?qu=S&rf=2364 agrees although no survey is cited), I'd say forget the WNW cairn, just run NW, pass the 1st gully; on reaching the 2nd gully (cairn) follow the directions as above.
Rob

I have been finding going back almost to Esk Hause but cutting the corner down to a stream slightly faster (only a few mins)
but to complicate things last time I was up there I did what sounds like you did Rob crossing the top of the first gully (Great gully?) then going DOWN the second for 40m? before breaking out left down the ramp line the other route joins further down, this would be a good few mins faster as most of the route is on grass but its not obvious at all where to get out of the gully.

[RobW]

I have been finding going back almost to Esk Hause but cutting the corner down to a stream slightly faster (only a few mins)
but to complicate things last time I was up there I did what sounds like you did Rob crossing the top of the first gully (Great gully?) then going DOWN the second for 40m? before breaking out left down the ramp line the other route joins further down, this would be a good few mins faster as most of the route is on grass but its not obvious at all where to get out of the gully.

Great Gully would be the one mentioned in the descriptions, having a large cairn at the top?

The 2nd gully you mention being an obvious narrowish stony gully, fairly runnable? Can you suggest a GR? I'll have to download my GPS track tonight to get an idea where I was on the map. Anyway, the route I ended up with seemed pretty runnable after the stony gully was crossed, so unless I find someone for 7 July who knows it well, I guess that's what I'll do.

[Baggins]

Great Gully would be the one mentioned in the descriptions, having a large cairn at the top?

The 2nd gully you mention being an obvious narrowish stony gully, fairly runnable? Can you suggest a GR? I'll have to download my GPS track tonight to get an idea where I was on the map. Anyway, the route I ended up with seemed pretty runnable after the stony gully was crossed, so unless I find someone for 7 July who knows it well, I guess that's what I'll do.

Blue line was the one Splatcher described green the "new" way

Greatend Descent new JNC.jpg

[RobW]

Blue line was the one Splatcher described green the "new" way

I like the loop (but my reccy track has more!). Any chance of emailing me the tracks if you have them?

[Baggins]

I like the loop (but my reccy track has more!). Any chance of emailing me the tracks if you have them?

Ok will do

[RobW]

Leg 1 - which Wether Hill summit? The 671m Wainwright at NY 45597 16767 or the 674m Nuttall 660m further S at NY 45463 16307 ? Not difficult to visit both as they're near the path...

The Hodgson description and the timings match the first (northern) summit; the 2nd is exactly on the path anyway.

What's the quickest route up High Raise? Straight up the gully or swing L on the path?

And the Rossett Pike ascent - keep L through Langdale Combe or keep R on the longer line with maybe 50m less drop?