The perfect shorts

[The devil's own]

Patagonia do do a 5" inseam version of those shorts http://eu.patagonia.com/enIE/product...inch?p=24631-0

I've recently bought a pain a the 5 inch striders and I can say they are easily the best shorts I've had by a mile. I've had no problems with chaffing at all, you can fit plenty in the pockets and they are really comfy. Well worth the £50 imo.

[Willowisp]

Another Patagonia strider user here.
I cut out the brief and use Under Armour long legged boxers underneath. They got me across the Northern Traverse with no chaffage (combined with a bit of lube)

[benshep]

Ronhill do a pair with a cycling short-style (ie tight and short length) liner. the liner in the ones I have are luminous yellow/green. it does look a bit soft, but they are comfy. perhaps just too warm on a hot day, but I've worn them on ultras and had no chaffing or discomfort.

[Jez Hellewell]

Ronhill do a pair with a cycling short-style (ie tight and short length) liner. the liner in the ones I have are luminous yellow/green. it does look a bit soft, but they are comfy. perhaps just too warm on a hot day, but I've worn them on ultras and had no chaffing or discomfort.

You've nowt to chafe mate.

[John Walker]

http://www.runningbear.co.uk/running...hort-blue.html

Would these be any good to you? Not sure about the cargo space but at the price you can't really go wrong.

[Stoat]

Thanks for all the suggestions.
Tried the inov-8's but the liner was very warm.
For those that share my sensitivities, the best option that I tested (after much agonising over the price) is the salomon sense short. Short / cool with a boxer liner.

I have also found that the the Under Amour 'ISO Chill' 6" boxer is a fairly cool undershort for all those shorts that you have cut the liners out of!
The running bear ones look interesting / worth a punt, but I suspect that they are a touch long / warm for summer use.