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    The Killing of Raptors

    Things are getting very bad in the SW of the Dales, Two red kites shot near Blubberhouses this summer and this morning Grough have this:-
    "A dead peregrine falcon has been found by a walker in the Yorkshire Dales.
    The bird, which was discovered in Hebden Gill, east of Grassington, died because of shotgun wounds, police said".
    I love the Grouse moors and could just about tolerate grouse shooting, but the continuing persecution of all birds of Prey (possibly by gamekeepers) is a major wildlife crime and disgusts me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPo View Post
    ...the continuing persecution of all birds of Prey (possibly by gamekeepers) is a major wildlife crime and disgusts me.
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    Grouse moors are nothing but killing fields , both for the Red Grouse and most other wildlife, plus the environmental damage resulting from the so called "management" of the moors, hopefully the end is nigh for this pathetic activity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaning Hobbler View Post
    Grouse moors are nothing but killing fields , both for the Red Grouse and most other wildlife, plus the environmental damage resulting from the so called "management" of the moors, hopefully the end is nigh for this pathetic activity.

    Don't think government (and many others) agree with your sentiments, quote from DEFRA this week:

    “The government recognises the benefits that grouse shooting, and shooting more widely, bring to individuals, the environment and the rural economy. It is for these reasons that the government believes shooting and other country pursuits such as hunting and fishing should be protected.”
    Don't roll with a pig in poo. You get covered in poo and the pig likes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by molehill View Post
    Don't think government (and many others) agree with your sentiments, quote from DEFRA this week:

    “The government recognises the benefits that grouse shooting, and shooting more widely, bring to individuals, the environment and the rural economy. It is for these reasons that the government believes shooting and other country pursuits such as hunting and fishing should be protected.”
    If it's grouse moors, sheep farming or forestry, grouse moors do quite well for wildlife (except for raptors of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by noel View Post
    If it's grouse moors, sheep farming or forestry, grouse moors do quite well for wildlife (except for raptors of course).
    That depends on which species of wildlife you mean. Some species do artificially well due to lack of predation, mainly wading birds that breed on our uplands. That's because foxes, stoats and weasels are destroyed if they stray within the boundary of a grouse moor. Even mountain hares are culled in the name of grouse breeding. Of course all raptors are heavily protected by law so they should be safe from the keepers' traps and guns..?
    Grouse shooting has been outed and it is only a matter of time when the rich men will have to seek out their pleasure from some other, more defensible hobby.

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    I have yet to see a plausible defence of driven grouse shooting from anyone, defra's defence of driven grouse shooting only reflects the fact that the upper echelons of the Conservative Party is stacked with people who enjoy slaughtering birds for fun and dont care about the consequences for wildlife or the environment. Good to see M &S are not selling grouse again this year, obviously they are more in touch with public opinion than defra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaning Hobbler View Post
    ...Good to see M &S are not selling grouse again this year, obviously they are more in touch with public opinion than defra.
    I think the only reason they are not selling grouse this season is because of the lack of surplus birds on the moor they were to be supplied from. That said it may be public opinion that swayed them towards not supporting grouse shooting. We shall see whether they return to selling grouse in the future. Hopefully by then there will be a ban on driven grouse shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wharfeego View Post
    I think the only reason they are not selling grouse this season is because of the lack of surplus birds on the moor they were to be supplied from. That said it may be public opinion that swayed them towards not supporting grouse shooting. We shall see whether they return to selling grouse in the future. Hopefully by then there will be a ban on driven grouse shooting.
    Grouse is OK. A bit like albatross but without the salty aftertaste.

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    I was married to a grouse beater who earn good money for a days fell walking.

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