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    bob graham without traini

    ok so next year im hoping to be racing on the roads, mostly 5 and 10ks (I know wrong forum)but I,ve still got this terrible bob graham itch that wont go away. I,ve got some pals who are going next june, my question to you is, can it be done without compromising my racing too much, my normal winter training is obviously faster than bg pace with plenty of hills and speed and a 14mile 1000ft ascent sunday run, so I,m fairly fit, what do I need to be doing to get me round (please don't say 10000ft of climbing a week for six months)thanks.

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    10000ft of climbing a week for six months
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    I know people who have got round without much specific training.
    Although they are all capable of top 30 in champs races so have the basic fell fitness and training.

    Scoffer ran 17:01 off nothing more than his normal training (although living in the lakes that was the right training inc. a 4h fell run on a Sunday). He was on Billy's schedule at Rossett Pike.

    If you have the itch why aren't you willing to put in the specific training?
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    I did it off 25 miles and about 3000ft ascent per week. I'd got ITBS in the October before so didn't really get training until February or so. I was back to my usual race pace within two weeks of doing the round - I was always somewhere around 1/3rd of the way down the field so never troubling the leaders!

    If you want to do the BG then switching your main running focus is a good idea. It doesn't mean not racing just that your training is aimed at the BG not the races. You'll be a bit slower but your pace will soon return.
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    Being a Lakelander and as strong as a bull might help Bob!

    An interesting question I've often pondered is how "good" or "strong" an athlete (in a a broad sense) does someone have be to turn up in Keswick and get round? I know a couple of lads who did very decent rounds (under 23 hrs) without shall we say the "usual" training

    fwiw I think rocking up, doing it and clearing off back to the stadium, road, track etc is a shame. Not because it's culturally wrong but because you would miss out on a lot of fun. The BG is way bigger than a 65mile run round the fells. Recceing, geeking out, supporting, training on the hill, meeting BG'ers is great
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    seems to me you've got a conflict of interests. If I was you I'd get that tarmac stuff out of my system (get those PB's etc) next year then focus on hill training and really enjoy that. The training is the best bit and the bit that makes a successful round even more sweeter; that the months of focus, tears, sunshine, rain, sacrifice, happiness etc were all worth it. Absorb yourself in the mountains and all that they throw at you. Challenge them and be challenged by them. I think so much is missed if you just rock up at keswick and hope to get round. For what it's worth, 10, 000ft a week worked for me - and I still struggled up Yewbarrow despite training so damned hard and determined that I would beat it!

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    I had a plan of London Marathon then 10 weeks of 10000 feet climb and boom, unfortunately i broke my knee so maybe not next year.

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    Rob Jebb reckoned he did his round without training other than a bit of supporting other rounds, but I would guess his fell running back ground means if anybody could he could.

    Fitness is transferable so if you are a 30 minute 10K runner for example then you probably could get round on minimum training, if you are trying for sub 40 10k then I would say you would need to do BG hill training to be successful. I guess it also depends on your endurance base, what other Ultra running, Audux events etc you have done.

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    Thank you , very helpfull

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    Thanks ba-ba , I,m running well on the roads over the shorter stuff and that's why I want a magic solution to running fast on the roads and just popping in a big as well

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