STOP LYING?
"I mean what I say and say what I mean.
There won't be an early election.
There should be NO general election until 2020"
By
Theresa May, June 30th 2016.
Will you vote for this liar?
STOP LYING?
"I mean what I say and say what I mean.
There won't be an early election.
There should be NO general election until 2020"
By
Theresa May, June 30th 2016.
Will you vote for this liar?
Quite possibly. To be fair, and in general I don't like or trust politicians' I think she is doing the right thing. The whole Brexit thing is not something she wanted and I really think she is trying to do the best for Britain given where we are now. I suppose she could have said nothing or said 'I don't know, there might be an election, but neither of these would wash so stating what she hoped would happen as a certainty was probably not so bad.
Cards on the table, I voted for Brexit which may colour my opinion but I don't think so.
Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run
I agree.
Brexit aside there are other issues.
Whether you like the policy or not, just go back a few weeks to the uproar over the NI changes at the budget as they were deemed against the Tory manifesto.
The Tory manifesto had assumed we would stay in the EU - it did not have a second version for if we voted leave, so there are lots of issues that would have to be dealt with that would be against the manifesto from 2015.
Situations change, politicians have to change to adapt with them. I actually appreciate that.
What I don't appreciate is a politician that reacts to focus groups such as Cameron and Blair.
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
We all say we like principled politicians rather than pragmatic ones. But the pragmatic ones have tended to do better in recent years. Cameron and Blair were both good at avoiding politically unpopular decisions by changing their course to steer round obstacles.
In contrast, Corbin is a very principled politician and no-one wants to vote for him (but that could be due to a number of other factors - left-wing views, poor media style...)
Richard Taylor
"William Tell could take an apple off your head. Taylor could take out a processed pea."
Sid Waddell
There seem to be many in Labour and the LibDems who are saying this is an opportunistic move by May and of course it is. However before the Fixed Terms Parliament Act it was commonplace for Governments of both persuasions to go to the country at times of perceived electoral advantage. Gordon Brown was contemplating doing so in 2007 but chickened out.
What I can't understand is why both Labour and LibDems are apparently going to vote in favour of the dissolution of parliament. It seems rather odd to criticise something and then effectively go ahead and agree with it. If the opposition parties all voted against then May wouldn't get the two thirds majority required and there would be no election.
Last edited by Muddy Retriever; 19-04-2017 at 11:40 AM.
Well that's a good case in point isn't it. His reasons for supporting Hamas aren't because he thinks it will help him in the polls. Whatever his reasons, a less principled politician would be swayed by popular opinion.
BTW. There are those who say that Blair and Cameron shouldn't have dealt with McGuinness. Mind you, there are those who still regard Nelson Mandella as a terrorist.
DIdn't Mo Mowlem do all the hard work in the peace process, Blair just stepped in to take the credit.
Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run
With respect to Trev's original question:-
In any situation people have to react to changing circumstances. Any plan that can't be changed is a bad plan. Just something that everyone has to live with.
There's been several occasions in my own life where I've set forth determined to stick to a certain plan of action; only to have to literally break my heart by modifying my plan in response to unforeseen circumstances that were beyond my control.
With respect to McGuinness, he was a murderous terrorist but he did eventually listen to reason and look to the ballot box and politics, as the vast majority of people said he should.
You don't continue beating a dog once it starts to take heed of your commands.
Last edited by wheezing donkey; 19-04-2017 at 03:27 PM.
I was a bit of an oddball until I was abducted by aliens; but I'm perfectly OK now!