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    How many people have said this, what is the point of a ban, when it is UNENFORCEABLE.

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    Like Ba Ba said leave it to the RO.

    When we study the facts only a very few have any concerns. Top 5/6 in a local race and top dozen in a championship event.

    I ran 12 years with a Garmin but never once had pre loaded data. It was only used for collection of data for me.
    Should people be penalized who are towards the steadier end of a race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    How many people have said this, what is the point of a ban, when it is UNENFORCEABLE.
    Lots of rules and regulations are unenforceable but at least the breakers of those rules might be glancing over their shoulders as well as at their wrists and they might even look a bit sheepish at the finish line. But then again they might not give a shit!

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    Leaving it to the ROs will split the sport in two, and create mistrust. Will those who have used their watch legally to navigate in some races comply and not use it in the same way in others? And when somebody does really well in clag in a race where navigational GPS use is banned will they be trusted? The FRA needs to decide - accept or ban GPS navigational use. If after some time it is felt the decision was wrong then it can be changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    How many people have said this, what is the point of a ban, when it is UNENFORCEABLE.
    There is a ban on running using another competitorís number in all disciplines. Without asking people for ID when they collect their number, this is unenforceable (the only race Iíve been required to produce ID for is London Marathon). Iím not suggesting that fell race organisers should ask all runners to show ID when collecting numbers as this would be wholly impractical given the reliance on a small number of volunteers in ratio to runners. However, the ban on swapping numbers is upheld in spirit - there have been instances of DQ & penalties against clubs in road & XC races Iíve known of.

    Similarly, a ban on GPS for nav can still be upheld, even if it appears unenforceable (without someone speaking up against those they see using it). Appealing to the good nature of runners is part of our sport - just as much as asking them not to climb that wall/cross that field etc. is.

    Iím with Nic - leave it to the RO. Plenty of us donít have a watch with nav functions, so I cannot see it splitting the sport.

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    Iíd also add that, by way of having a ban on GPS nav (at discretion of RO), those new to the sport are given an insight into the spirit of it. (After all, some may turn up on the start line with, quite innocently, a pre-loaded track on their watch. By having a ban at ROs discretion, aspirants are at least encouraged to have a good look at a map, or even recce.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    How many people have said this, what is the point of a ban, when it is UNENFORCEABLE.
    I don't think it matters if it's enforceable or not, it's the principle that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark G View Post
    I don't think it matters if it's enforceable or not, it's the principle that counts.
    Totally agree :-)

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