Domestic solar panels

[Mossdog]

My neighbour opted for a wind turbine instead. He's a Big Fan.

[Derby Tup]

Hey, what goes around comes around Mossy 😉

[DrPatrickBarry]

By which you mean the Govt. finally stopped shovelling money at householders to encourage them to install a grossly inefficient system...

Which system is efficient?

[wheezing donkey]

Which system is efficient?

The best is probably a log fire ...... provided you're not a 'softie' who buys in logs ( industrial scale 'processing & delivery' creates a carbon footprint ) or uses a chainsaw ..... hand cutting and chopping of wood warms you up even before you ignite the fuel.

[DrPatrickBarry]

The best is probably a log fire

My uncle had a small farm in Ireland, and my father bought a chainsaw. Over 30 years he felled every decent tree on that farm to heat three house. I though it was an environment crime, when you think of the hundreds of years of growth that was required for 30 yeas of heating.

[wheezing donkey]

My uncle had a small farm in Ireland, and my father bought a chainsaw. Over 30 years he felled every decent tree on that farm to heat three house. I though it was an environment crime, when you think of the hundreds of years of growth that was required for 30 yeas of heating.

DPB, you're actually quoting a very small portion of my post quite out of context without the remainder of the post.

The ethical way is not to fell 'decent' trees. There's plenty of fallen and wind-blown timber. In the laws of the ancient Forest of Bowland the commoners were only allowed to take branches that could be reached with a shepherd's crook and cut with a bill-hook. Hence the expression '...by hook or by crook....'
As in my post above .... your father would not have actually felled the complete trees without his new fangled chainsaw, they make life too easy, too soft, hence unethical.

But granted, no heating system is efficient, some are just less inefficient than others; and most of us judge a systems inefficiency on personal cost rather than environmental impact.

[Graham Breeze]

DPB, you're actually quoting a very small portion of my post quite out of context without the remainder of the post.

The ethical way is not to fell 'decent' trees. There's plenty of fallen and wind-blown timber. In the laws of the ancient Forest of Bowland the commoners were only allowed to take branches that could be reached with a shepherd's crook and cut with a bill-hook. Hence the expression '...by hook or by crook....'
As in my post above .... your father would not have actually felled the complete trees without his new fangled chainsaw, they make life too easy, too soft, hence unethical.

But granted, no heating system is efficient, some are just less inefficient than others; and most of us judge a systems inefficiency on personal cost rather than environmental impact.

So do what we've known for 50 years is best: bash a tube in the bed of the North Sea, pipe high pressure natural gas ashore and burn it.

[Daletownrunner]

So do what we've known for 50 years: bash a tube in the bed of the North Sea, pipe high pressure natural gas ashore and burn it.

Or better still bash in a bunch of 8MW wind turbines

[Graham Breeze]

Or better still bash in a bunch of 8MW wind turbines

Ah yes. Those things that fall to bits, kill birds, offend the delicate eyes of some people and only work when the wind blows - and then not too strongly or they have to be shut down.

Fracking is the future!

[Daletownrunner]

Ah yes. Those things that fall to bits, kill birds, offend the delicate eyes of some people and only work when the wind blows - and then not too strongly or they have to be shut down.

Fracking is the future!

Wind at 10mps, 8MW out, it’s the future, and the birds love em, judging by the levels of guano on some sites