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    Tinderthread sounds like a specialised forum for race addicts or metalheads

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    I think you'll find tinder is something entirely different...

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    Hi all,

    Sorry to be slow on the update. Most importantly we had a great day! We left Moot Hall at 9.30am and going anti clockwise we did legs 5, 4 and 3 before calling it a day at Dunmail Raise. A dodgy knee and general energy levels were not conducive to doing more. However we have now got the Bob Graham bug and very much hope to come back to complete soon.

    My five cents on GPS is that, although I entirely understand the arguments against it, when used appropriately and in conjunction with maps it is a hugely valuable tool.

    We had a quick chat at Moot Hall with a couple of guys just before they left at 10pm on Friday evening. Does anyone know if they completed?

    Darren, many congratulations, you gave us a bit of inspiration when we saw you on Steeple!

    Thank you again for all the help we have received on here.

    Lucian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucian View Post
    Hi all,

    Sorry to be slow on the update. Most importantly we had a great day! We left Moot Hall at 9.30am and going anti clockwise we did legs 5, 4 and 3 before calling it a day at Dunmail Raise. A dodgy knee and general energy levels were not conducive to doing more. However we have now got the Bob Graham bug and very much hope to come back to complete soon.

    My five cents on GPS is that, although I entirely understand the arguments against it, when used appropriately and in conjunction with maps it is a hugely valuable tool.

    We had a quick chat at Moot Hall with a couple of guys just before they left at 10pm on Friday evening. Does anyone know if they completed?

    Darren, many congratulations, you gave us a bit of inspiration when we saw you on Steeple!

    Thank you again for all the help we have received on here.

    Lucian

    Well done lad`s a testament to level headedness and common sense.

    Spot on with the GPS if it works for pilots, sea captains etc etc who are we as runners to turn our back on technology, after all there would have been a time when a compass was a new fangled gadget that would have been treated with contempt by some, these days I figure a map and the knowledge to use it to be absolutely essential now whether you use a compass or a gps in conjunction with the map should be personal choice but whichever you use the other should always be in your sac just in case, after all a dropped and trodden on/lost compass is not unheard of and TBH you are unlikely to be carrying a spare compass whereas if using GPS you are very likely to be carrying spare batteries just my view.

    Right Good luck for your future completion of the BGR I shall be looking out for the news that you have done it.

    Right I will sit back take the flak and watch with interest
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    Call me old school but why use a GPS rather than map and compass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shughoppy View Post
    Call me old school but why use a GPS rather than map and compass?
    Why use a navigator rather than map and compass?
    Last edited by DrPatrickBarry; 24-07-2018 at 07:23 AM.

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    If only sextants weren't so damned heavy. Lighter than a sexton though...

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    Even I'm not old enough for the compass to be regarded as "new fangled"

    The thing with GPS use at sea is that ships' masters must still be able to use chart and compass (and sextant) in event of the more modern systems (GPS, Glonass, Loran-C, etc.) failing.

    Anyway, back on track (sic) - Energy levels on long challenges like this are awkward to manage. In addition you'll invariably have a bad patch (even Kilian Jornet had one descending off Grey Knotts and had to sit down for a couple of minutes) so it's a case of recognising the signs and knowing what food works for you to avoid the bonk. Better to avoid than recover from this situation. A little and often works for me - it's one of your pacer's tasks to keep you fed and hydrated. If you are running as a pair then it's a case of keeping an eye on each other. Some people prefer to take food on board on climbs, others on descents, no one right way, again what works for you.

    Your tastes change over time during something like this - by the time I got to Honister on my Round, stuff I'd normally eat without a second's thought was just unpalatable so it's worth having a good variety of stuff to hand so you can choose what you fancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry View Post
    Why use a navigator rather than map and compass?
    Or, why use a map and compass if you have a navigator?!

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