JNC Route Choices

[Tikeltum]

Yes, NE would be, ahem, interesting.

The actual direction is NNW and is basically a direct line to Styhead Tarn - Here's a link: http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=322500&Y=509500&A=Y&Z=120

It's described as a way up Great End in the appropriate Wainright book, Southern Fells?

I can't comment on what it's like as I don't think I've ever done it.

Bob. I meant to thank you for mentioning Wainwright and his Southern Fells book for info on Great End. I should have checked there first, but I didn't think Wainwright was a Fell Runner. Thanks again, I will reccy the route next spring.

[studmarks]

Thanks for the help, I've found your route in my Wainwright and it looks fairly clear, though it could be tricky in mist as Wainwright suggests.

Tikeltum

I am hoping to recce the descent of Great End tomorrow there is a a description in the Collins Mid-western fells by Mark Richards on page107 and a fairly clear map of the route on pages 103 & 104. if there is anything I can add to this thread after I will. I am also trying to find the best way from Rossett Pike to Bow Fell, is there a way to the left of Hanging Knotts from the top of Rossett Gill, or due you take the Ore Gap route?

[IanDarkpeak]

I am hoping to recce the descent of Great End tomorrow there is a a description in the Collins Mid-western fells by Mark Richards on page107 and a fairly clear map of the route on pages 103 & 104. if there is anything I can add to this thread after I will. I am also trying to find the best way from Rossett Pike to Bow Fell, is there a way to the left of Hanging Knotts from the top of Rossett Gill, or due you take the Ore Gap route?

Billy Blands rake is the only route, very direct , from the col after RP bear left and up a gully good spring on your right. approx 50m above bear left (675m contour) up a series of ramps and trods. Small cairns every where but just keep going til you top out. My favourite climb on the BG !!!

[Bob]

I am also trying to find the best way from Rossett Pike to Bow Fell, is there a way to the left of Hanging Knotts from the top of Rossett Gill, or due you take the Ore Gap route?

Yes there is

On the Langdale face of Hanging Knotts are a set of ramps that lead up to a point about 100m to the north of the top of Bowfell Buttress. Photo here:
http://www.aqvi55.dsl.pipex.com/pict...fell-rakes.jpg

[studmarks]

Billy Blands rake is the only route, very direct , from the col after RP bear left and up a gully good spring on your right. approx 50m above bear left (675m contour) up a series of ramps and trods. Small cairns every where but just keep going til you top out. My favourite climb on the BG !!!

Thanks IanDarkpeak I will try it tomorrow although forcast gives misty conditions so navigating may be a lttle trick, hopefully with the cold temperatures it will be an inversion and will be trapped in the valleys with the tops clear.

[studmarks]

Yes there is

On the Langdale face of Hanging Knotts are a set of ramps that lead up to a point about 100m to the north of the top of Bowfell Buttress. Photo here:
http://www.aqvi55.dsl.pipex.com/pict...fell-rakes.jpg

Thanks for that Bob just what I needed.

[Bob]

I was running a bath at the time so just posted the link (I thought I'd removed the shot long ago:-) ) - here's the accompanying text:

A is a grassy area on the summit plateau of Bowfell that is at the top of one line.
B is Bowfell Buttress and is about 100m nearer the summit than A
C is an alternative entry/exit and is found just short of the summit of Hanging knotts at a trough in the ridge.

The above came from a thread about Bob Graham route choices, but since the BG and the JNC follow the same line from Rossett Pike to Great End, it's just as useful. http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...bowfell&page=5

Enjoy tomorrow.

[studmarks]

I was running a bath at the time so just posted the link (I thought I'd removed the shot long ago:-) ) - here's the accompanying text:

A is a grassy area on the summit plateau of Bowfell that is at the top of one line.
B is Bowfell Buttress and is about 100m nearer the summit than A
C is an alternative entry/exit and is found just short of the summit of Hanging knotts at a trough in the ridge.

The above came from a thread about Bob Graham route choices, but since the BG and the JNC follow the same line from Rossett Pike to Great End, it's just as useful. http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...bowfell&page=5

Enjoy tomorrow.

Thanks Bob and also IanDarkPeak for the info, found the way up Bowfell in mist no problem, clear conditions on top with superb views over the Scafells, found the descent of Great end in clear conditions OK but very undefined in places, I think a few recce's is required to get a perfect line and could be difficult in mist.

[Mark G]

From Pooley bridge go through the caravan site at Park Foot then follow the wall by Aik Beck to reach the main track.

From Great End go direct (north east) to find your way through the crags to join the main path. You can go back the way you came up Esk Hause but the over 50 time is quite tight so you need the quickest route.

Good Luck

Anybody had any issues/conversation with the camp site owners over this? I had a little reccie out this way today but went round via Roehead because as far as I can tell there's no right of way through the site. In the summer its probably easy to merge with the crowds (maybe not at 5.00am!) but today it was deserted and I would have been a bit obvious passing through - I wouldn't want to attract any flak to the route by upsetting the owners of the site.
I know there's a way through because we finished a KIMM there a few years ago, but that was with the support/involvement of the site.

[Splatcher]

Anybody had any issues/conversation with the camp site owners over this?

I didn't, on 3 occasions I had no problems, including when it was pretty quiet. I've not heard that anyone else has been stopped either.