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    OK, so the obvious discussion point. In or out of the 3rd test?
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    Obviously he will be in, as he is the best player that is currently available to represent England. Whether he should play is another matter and I'm sure the cricket authorities will be scurrying around trying to find the best way to brush the incident under the carpet.
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    I didn't really follow the trial, but he was found not-guilty yeah. In which case the incidents in question shouldn't be held against him. If the court has decided he didn't break any laws then what he gets up to is his business*.

    If he is fit and able to play* and better than alternative available players for his position then he should play.

    *Of course getting involved in such incidents could impair his ability to play, he might be a better player if he wasn't up to all hours drinking, but again that's his business whether he wants to live "clean" and (potentially) be better or live "fast" and play as well as he can.

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    Don't think Freddy, Goughy or Botham were Angeles either.

    Stokes has done wrong. But how many trials or discipline hears should a person have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PiesAreGood View Post
    I didn't really follow the trial, but he was found not-guilty yeah. In which case the incidents in question shouldn't be held against him. If the court has decided he didn't break any laws then what he gets up to is his business*.

    If he is fit and able to play* and better than alternative available players for his position then he should play.

    *Of course getting involved in such incidents could impair his ability to play, he might be a better player if he wasn't up to all hours drinking, but again that's his business whether he wants to live "clean" and (potentially) be better or live "fast" and play as well as he can.
    Not guilty is not the same as innocent. It just means the jury were not sure of his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. As is said by legal representatives, if you think they were probably guilty, that is not enough, if guilt is only felt to be probable, then the verdict should be not guilty.

    As to whether cricketers should go out drinking and brawling at all hours ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stagger View Post
    Don't think Freddy, Goughy or Botham were Angeles either.

    Stokes has done wrong. But how many trials or discipline hears should a person have?
    Not being an angel is different to being a thug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T View Post
    Not guilty is not the same as innocent. It just means the jury were not sure of his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. As is said by legal representatives, if you think they were probably guilty, that is not enough, if guilt is only felt to be probable, then the verdict should be not guilty.
    That is a fair point.

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    Not being an angel is different to being a thug.
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    John Michael Brearley OBE captained Cambridge University, Middlesex, and England. He captained the international side in 31 of his 39 Test matches, winning 17 and losing only 4.

    Education: St John's College Cambridge

    After his cricket career was over he practised as a psychoanalyst but I am unaware if he ever treated overpaid, drunken thugs.
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    England need 520 runs
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    Bat for over 2 full days

    2-1 in the series.

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    Looks like the week off hasn't improved out batting ability - not looking good for the rest of the series!
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