That blinkin' Ash giving all my shortcuts away :w00t:

Hi Nick,
Yup, posts above all pointing you in the right direction. Been 3 times in last few weeks and there is a faint very wet trod developing from the bend in the Caldew straight up Mungrisedale. (i'm keeping off it and zig zagging up further to right).

A few years back I used to prefer the 'direct' route, South ish then down through heather to a ribbon of grass leading to the sheepfold you mention. You can get a good view of this as you climb to Mungrisdale but it is hard to locate from above!!

The fence East then Wiley is failsafe and is distinct all the way now.

Auld Ken