Crowden Horseshoe

Hope lots of us are on for this one.

I made the classic beginners error with this one last year - after two (count them) Trunces I believed I was some kind of fell running expert and thought that a poxy eight miles would be no problem. I soon came down to earth with a bump.

A year older and wiser, I've used this course many times as a practice route and I've grown to quite like it :o Can't wait for the race proper.

I haven't been up Black Hill for a few weeks though - anyone know what its like at the moment? I'm hoping for pukka bogs on the day...

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Originally Posted by RichK

Hope lots of us are on for this one.

I made the classic beginners error with this one last year - after two (count them) Trunces I believed I was some kind of fell running expert and thought that a poxy eight miles would be no problem. I soon came down to earth with a bump.

A year older and wiser, I've used this course many times as a practice route and I've grown to quite like it :o Can't wait for the race proper.

I haven't been up Black Hill for a few weeks though - anyone know what its like at the moment? I'm hoping for pukka bogs on the day...

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I ran this three years ago. Fantastic bogs, and low cloud. Great running conditions..

an excellent finish
nice and tricky at the end:)

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Originally Posted by daz h

an excellent finish
nice and tricky at the end:)

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Heh - it feels like 7.5 miles of climbing is "paid back" in 800yds of descent!

My favourite part of this race is that feeling of hopelessness when you reach the top and turn for home - you may as well be on the moon :eek:

Hope it isn't flagged on the return this year.

Bone dry at the moment. I am running the course on Sunday hopefully if not hungover, so will report on course status then.

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Bone dry at the moment. I am running the course on Sunday hopefully if not hungover, so will report on course status then.

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will you be doin the race RR

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Bone dry at the moment. I am running the course on Sunday hopefully if not hungover, so will report on course status then.

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:mad:

I'm going to do a rain dance.

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Originally Posted by Marvin

I ran this three years ago. Fantastic bogs, and low cloud. Great running conditions..

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Hi Marvin

I did this 3 years ago as my first fell race. I knew the route and did quite well. This was the year when 30 runners went too far left after coming off the top.:D :D

One of my favorite races.

Doing the Fellsman so unfortuanatly I won't be there.

Ian

Area is bone dry at the moment as is everywhere around there. Good course this one and well organised by Monsieur Gibbons of Glossop.

Wish I could do it but will be approx 3000 miles away on the other side of the pond by then.

Coming off black hill trig on last years race I lost both my shoes in a bog. Couldnt get the damm laces undone so decided to continue without shoes for a while - what was I thinking! soon had to put them back on again.

Yes -very tricky last section but a good course

Just a thought, if the current restrictions continue will this race go ahead??

I ran on the moors tonight, not knowing the park rangers had been round and put loads of signs up warning that the moors are closed, but bridleways and paths are open. (How does that one work?)

RR is running the race.

Rain is on the way.... probably Sunday, if not Monday.... I can smell it!
Surrounded by signs in my neck of the woods; always brings back some very bad memories of Foot&Mouth... gates locked & under D notice restriction... all of which achieved absolutely nothing of any kind of worth at all (wrecked a lot of the local economy)... there is a comparison in my humble view..

I'm sure the race will be on, and it's a cracker!
If a little bit to runnable for me...
As ever Des will make it even better!!

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

Just a thought, if the current restrictions continue will this race go ahead??

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What restrictions??

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

What restrictions??

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http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showthread.php?t=1181

This one:D

Ah,
Right, so how does that leave things then?

Anyone in the know??

Still bone dry, definitely rain Sunday, bet Des flags it off top given it's the inter-counties. Can always hope for the clag being down.

Well, its all pretty much on footpaths/rights of way, so we should be ok, but I reckon we should see some rain before then.

Didn't realise its always flagged, I thought that was a one off for last year - must admit to being a bit disappointed about that but I am a masochist :o

Recee tomorrow (Sunday) morning. Leaving campsite at 10am. Des is taking us round the course.

Lovely sunny day here, no sign of rain yet.

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Recee tomorrow (Sunday) morning. Leaving campsite at 10am. Des is taking us round the course.

Lovely sunny day here, no sign of rain yet.

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you racing again how are the legs, take it they have recovered

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Originally Posted by thegreatestdesender

you racing again how are the legs, take it they have recovered

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Can tell you are not a member of the FRA. It says a recee of the race route!

This one is in our local clubs fell race grand prix so there should be a good turn out. The course is highly runnable for the fast ens, the final descent is a bit tricky though.

Going to the match after (3pm start) so might need to drag my son along and go straight to there from the race.

Good run this morning with forumites Roadrunner, Dark Peaker, Bone and a few others including race organiser Des. Cheers for that guys. If it stays dry over the next week you could consider race flats it was fairly dry today especially until the summit.

Had planned to do this however, agreed to do 40 mile run/walk throuh the Lakes on Saturday so don't think I'll be able to get back in time......honest!!

It's raining!!!! Not hard, but its started. Going to run on the course again tomorrow seeing that it's a bank holiday!!!!!!!!!

Bisto, did the pace get faster and faster?

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Originally Posted by Bladerunner

Bisto, did the pace get faster and faster?

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Only when roadrunner was at the front!

What's the route, which way round?
Was planning a BG on Sat 12th but knee injury put a stop to that for the time being, so should be around on the Sunday.

I have a PDF file from a website that has the exact route detailled - I was going to link to it but it appears they've made a pay site since I got it - so PM me and I'll email my copy across to you.

Roughly : from the Youth Hostel, clockwise following the Pennie Way to Black Hill (via Laddow Rocks), then across Tooleyshaw Moss to White Low then Westend Moss, Hey Moss and back to the youth hostel (steep finish).

(unless : gulp - it reverses direction this year: I shall stay in my tent if so :D )

It's going to be clockwise, in other words, the way described above. Just ran the course again. Took me 1 hour but got a little confused at one point and slowed down to ensure I was on the right track. A little wetter today than yesterday bt still very runabe. Last section very steep!

This is how it was a couple of years ago.

Starts on lane to the YHA (Note the new one, not the old one) therefore does not run through the forest to start. Then after the final steep dowhill section turn right on the lane and run back to the new YHA. (The new YHA is in the old Roterham Outdoor adventure centre)

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

It's going to be clockwise, in other words, the way described above. Just ran the course again. Took me 1 hour but got a little confused at one point and slowed down to ensure I was on the right track. A little wetter today than yesterday bt still very runabe. Last section very steep!

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i recced it this morning with my wife , saw 2x fellrunners , didnt recognise any of them , lass and lad , lass had a red helly on
i think the only part i could really get wrong is straying to far left after the right turn at the trig, there isnt really a marked path for a few hundred mtrs over the peat until you cross the stile and pick up the path again.
someone has left a cracking silver SIGG bottle a bit further on so if you pass that your on the correct path:rolleyes:
yes it was a tad wetter ,just enough to make the peat nice and bouncy

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Originally Posted by daz h

i think the only part i could really get wrong is straying to far left after the right turn at the trig, there isnt really a marked path for a few hundred mtrs over the peat until you cross the stile and pick up the path again.

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There are several stiles at the stage you mentioned Daz. I aimed for the one closest to the gate. Des informs me this stage of the race will be flagged, but we have all seen Des' flagging of courses!!!!!

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Originally Posted by daz h

someone has left a cracking silver SIGG bottle a bit further on so if you pass that your on the correct path:rolleyes:

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I noticed that but left it. I am sure the person who has droped it wont be going back for it. Lots of young students out this weekend on that path lookig like they were doing D of E walks.

Do the biys & girls run together in this race even though its the inter-counties?

Didn't know there was a new hostel - I guess that's the house that was being renovated last year?

Is the big car park down from the old Youth Hostel stil open? I've always dropped the car there when camping at Crowden, much easier than driving across a field. Am planning to camp over on Saturday night and would like to avoid the field if it is still possible.

yes lots of young students out today with backpacks bigger than themselves

when my amanda saw the two fellrunners skipping along she said to me , oh daz look two runners i wonder why they are running here.
perhaps there is a race

im not sure i said :rolleyes:
i will have a look in the calendar my sweet i replied


err yes love we have just recced it :)

so you doing this one then daz? :)

It's a bit too hardcore for me or I would be tempted:o

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Originally Posted by OneHillWonder

so you doing this one then daz? :)

It's a bit too hardcore for me or I would be tempted:o

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i probably will do it , its a good course apart from the flags going up to the trig but once you turn its great feeling coming back
yes you know you want to one hill

Car park is still there. Car sharing would be advisable.

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Car park is still there. Car sharing would be advisable.

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There's been some hideous roadworks along the woodhead pass too; don't know if any are scheduled for Sunday but best advised to leave early I reckon.

I'm very good at raindances it seems.