Kinder Trog

i know its a bit early but how many are doing this one . I have not done it for a few years .Used to be one of my favourite races :)

I am doing this if I can still walk after Ennerdale the weekend before.

Watch out for the bogs.

It is one of my planned races.

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Originally Posted by Grouse

Watch out for the bogs.

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It's OK now - they've had them mended.

Toilet paper's still hard though ...

Just don't let Marko anywhere near them;) .

I'm probably going to do this one. Anyone got a map?

Hoping to do this race as well, but have to overcome ballet exam and farthers day fun!

Im planning on having a trot round, I could also do with a map.

my harveys (not so) Superwalker only covers the side of the race to the east of the road crossing

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Originally Posted by socks

I'm probably going to do this one. Anyone got a map?

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You just need the 1:2500 OS Dark Peak. You can't use the Harvey's as i's chopped at the A624 which the Kinder Trog crosses at the end of Monks Road and at Peep'o'Day - everything to the west will be missing.

You basically steam off up Swallowhouse Lane to Sunnyside and then up to Lantern Pike summit, drop down and across the Lime Field, past Blackshaw and Matleymoor farms to Monks Road. At the end of this cross the A624 to pick up the well reinforced path over Burnt Hill and past the old Liberator to Mill Hill. From then on it's the Kinder Downfall route, except you drop down to the gate at the top of Jacobs Ladder before following the flagged path over past Brown Knoll to South Head. Then tracks take you down to Peep'o'Day and up past Whiterakes to Big Stone - then its over to the bridleway at New Allotments, and finish almost like the Crack Edge race except you keep going to return to the finish at Hayfield Scout Hut.

Mileage used to say 18m, now says 16m (which is more like) for same route.

Good race.

RP

I had a run orund the route last year with Swoop, its a nice race.

Cant remember if I did my self a map or relied on Colins local knowledge.

He also took me for his usual post race feed and a pint. Cant remember the pub.

Am I right in saying the end of the race almost runs through someones back garden.

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Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker

You basically steam off up Swallowhouse Lane to Sunnyside and then up to Lantern Pike summit, drop down and across the Lime Field

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You must be local - I've only heard 1 or 2 others call it the 'Lime field'

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Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker

except you drop down to the gate at the top of Jacobs Ladder before following the flagged path over past Brown Knoll to South Head.

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This is the old route. After Kinder Low you head for Edale Cross, cross over the bridleway & head down into the bottom of the infant River Sett. (Beeline for South Head, virtually). Then a steep climb out of the valley back onto the old route. You don't have to go over South Head (although Lloyd did last year & still set a new record) - just skirt round it.

SteveT normally comes along around now & posts a map of the route. I seem to remember Phil W. & a few others last year drew a sketch map of the route on the back of their race numbers!

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Originally Posted by Rudolph Hooker

You just need the 1:2500 OS Dark Peak. You can't use the Harvey's as i's chopped at the A624 which the Kinder Trog crosses at the end of Monks Road and at Peep'o'Day - everything to the west will be missing.

You basically steam off up Swallowhouse Lane to Sunnyside and then up to Lantern Pike summit, drop down and across the Lime Field, past Blackshaw and Matleymoor farms to Monks Road. At the end of this cross the A624 to pick up the well reinforced path over Burnt Hill and past the old Liberator to Mill Hill. From then on it's the Kinder Downfall route, except you drop down to the gate at the top of Jacobs Ladder before following the flagged path over past Brown Knoll to South Head. Then tracks take you down to Peep'o'Day and up past Whiterakes to Big Stone - then its over to the bridleway at New Allotments, and finish almost like the Crack Edge race except you keep going to return to the finish at Hayfield Scout Hut.

Mileage used to say 18m, now says 16m (which is more like) for same route.

Good race.

RP

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Thanks for that I couldn't find Big Stone on the map :confused:

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Originally Posted by GeoffB

You must be local - I've only heard 1 or 2 others call it the 'Lime field'

This is the old route. After Kinder Low you head for Edale Cross, cross over the bridleway & head down into the bottom of the infant River Sett. (Beeline for South Head, virtually). Then a steep climb out of the valley back onto the old route. You don't have to go over South Head (although Lloyd did last year & still set a new record) - just skirt round it.

SteveT normally comes along around now & posts a map of the route. I seem to remember Phil W. & a few others last year drew a sketch map of the route on the back of their race numbers!

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Thanks for that too.

A course map would be very handy ;)

Profile is here but ignore the bit over South Head. The race stays on the bridlepath through the col.

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Originally Posted by mxhornet

A course map would be very handy ;)

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I've put a map on the Hayfield Fell Race site - URL below...

Cheers, Steve

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Originally Posted by SteveT

I've put a map on the Hayfield Fell Race site - URL below...

Cheers, Steve

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I told you he would! Well done Steve.

A week before my BG attempt - I didn't ought to be racing, so I'll probably just have a steady jog around.

Yeah - take it easy, like you did on the OCT:D

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Originally Posted by Margarine

Yeah - take it easy, like you did on the OCT:D

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We can trot round together, if you like. I don't want you getting injured either!

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Originally Posted by SteveT

I've put a map on the Hayfield Fell Race site - URL below...

Cheers, Steve

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Thanks :)

Thanks for the map also.

May see you therre Geoff and good luck with the BG.

If my running goes well when I'm away I might have a crack at this. What's navigation like?

Will be having a stab at this one

though after supporting a BG attempt (first leg) on friday evening, and planning to do the Trunce the day after, i dont think i will be going at it too hard

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Originally Posted by Slippery Stones

Will be having a stab at this one

though after supporting a BG attempt (first leg) on friday evening, and planning to do the Trunce the day after, i dont think i will be going at it too hard

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I don't feel so bad about doing Buckden Pike on the Saturday now :D

I'll be taking it easy as well. Doing Great Hill at Brinscall the day before.

Is anyone actually racing it ? ;)

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Originally Posted by mxhornet

Is anyone actually racing it ? ;)

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I'm planning to, as long as I'm fit enough after Ennerdale.

I'm gonna go like a bat out of errr...

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Originally Posted by mxhornet

Is anyone actually racing it ? ;)

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i'll be going all guns blazing......

-seriously tho' did this 1 just a few years back in the scorching heat - wanted to call it quits going up to Lantern pike. Might do it if the conditions are more favourable just to bury the ghost.

I'll race it if it's not too cloudy and I can see where I'm going. Never run round there so what the hell, we'll see what happens!!!!!

I envy you all! Trying to get back in slowly after injury....had hoped the Trog would have been an ideal Father's Day treat! ;)

Alas, not to be....maybe next year......

Having racked up a first at the weekend (i.e. getting lost on a myriad of forest tracks at Alwinton) can anyone reassure me that I can't go wrong. Have studied the map and it looks relatively straightforward but that's what I thought on Saturday !! With a 500 mile round trip I would look very stupid repeating the same mistake.

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Originally Posted by Bob the Dog

Having racked up a first at the weekend (i.e. getting lost on a myriad of forest tracks at Alwinton) can anyone reassure me that I can't go wrong. Have studied the map and it looks relatively straightforward but that's what I thought on Saturday !! With a 500 mile round trip I would look very stupid repeating the same mistake.

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It's OK, there aren't any forest tracks.

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Originally Posted by Bob the Dog

Having racked up a first at the weekend (i.e. getting lost on a myriad of forest tracks at Alwinton) can anyone reassure me that I can't go wrong. Have studied the map and it looks relatively straightforward but that's what I thought on Saturday !! With a 500 mile round trip I would look very stupid repeating the same mistake.

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The only bit that isn't obvious, really, is from Kinder Low via Edale Cross to South Head. Also, after you cross the bit of moorland from Big Stone to New Allotments, don't forget to turn right at the path/bridleway crossroads.

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Originally Posted by Bob the Dog

Having racked up a first at the weekend (i.e. getting lost on a myriad of forest tracks at Alwinton) can anyone reassure me that I can't go wrong. Have studied the map and it looks relatively straightforward but that's what I thought on Saturday !! With a 500 mile round trip I would look very stupid repeating the same mistake.

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I'll follow you then ;)

i could well hop round this after buckden on the way back home
i nearly got lost last year somewhere but a dark peaker rescued me :rolleyes:

I'm doing both too. I'll be trying not to get lost on either day ;)

So what are the chances of staying dry then??

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Originally Posted by castlehill

So what are the chances of staying dry then??

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The weather is set to improve which for this race is bad news.
Two years ago everyone suffered in the sun. Last year was perfect - cool with some light rain.

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Originally Posted by Swoop

The weather is set to improve which for this race is bad news.
Two years ago everyone suffered in the sun. Last year was perfect - cool with some light rain.

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was there maps available last year colin