http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...sack-race.html
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:rolleyes: Oh whatever next
It sounds like it's the sports day is at a museum, and it's them that have got cold feet about the risk assessment.
That in turn will have been driven by their insurers, who will in turn have been influenced by the ambulance-chasing lawyers who are only concerned with looking after their own profits rather than the greater good of children's health and education.
So in short, it's all Christopher Leigh's fault...
Hope this helps....
Tell the children to stay in bed all day, then there is no risk to the children ...... but life would become very boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Woolley
Sports day tomorrow for my kids, non competetive though, spoon race with no eggs..........................or spoon.............and strictly no racing:D
It's crazy, competitive school sports days did me no harmQuote:
Originally Posted by merrylegs
competitive school sports days did me no harm
competitive school sports days did me no harm
competitive school sports days did me no harm wing zing nardle splot yarp:eek:
bed sores..... :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by XRunner
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Originally Posted by Tea
So the implication of what you're saying, is that the profits of the museum were at risk(higher legal costs), because children's parents would sue them if they were injured.
Well wouldn't you advise them to put their own financial self-interest first...?Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
Yes, particularly when the legal system holds them responsible for things that are not their fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tea
I wonder how many people have actually been injured in sack races, or 3 legged races? Probably got more chance being run over going to school.
Going to school is such a nasty dangerous thing, I reckon XRunner is probably right..... :rolleyes:
I would have thought that negotiating the school entrance through the mass of poor and hastily parked cars moving around is far more hazardous than running in a soft old sack.
If only children could be wrapped up in cotton wool , probably the powers that be would be happy then.
Sure i read last night in my local paper that the sports day is going ahead with the sack race included.
Pleased someone is still in the real world:rolleyes:
I wouldn't fancy fell racing in a sack. That would be very dangerous! That cheese rolling race now THAT'S dangerous!
Sacked in the morning.
Dominic Cummings
some good old forumites on this thread :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
In response Stagger I can't see it and it would be unjust in my opinion.
Stephen Kinnock MP - apology
Tahir Ali MP - apology
This bloke.
All of them lawmakers and whilst they have apologised, I tend to take them as not being heartfelt. Especially Stephen Kinnock who I felt did nothing wrong and I was disappointed he felt the pressure to apologise. It was just pressure of the pack.
Non had COVID or family with COVID.
They weren't away from their family support network.
An apology should be all that was needed, but why apologise if you are satisfied you followed the guidance in the first place - it would surely only be a false one.
To drive from London to Durham when lock down guidance was in effect was wrong.
It was NOT essential travelling.
Also to claim that police had not been involved when both his father and the Durham constabulary both claim differently.
Would be see ya later time for me. No place for hypocrites in times like this.
You have to be careful Trevor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
The claim initially was that the police spoke to Dom Cummings. That wasn't true and his Dad has acknowledged that he contacted Durham Police due to concerns over the situation, not the other way around.
If one of my kids called and said they needed me, I'd be there.
https://twitter.com/hendopolis/statu...222573057?s=21Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
I know I said I was off back to the occasional lurk, but now even the Daily Mail are against them.
I couldn't resist.
Johnson defending the indefensible.
The BBC showing its impartiality again (not) by continuing to orchestrate the sacking of Dominic Cummings. Some of the angles they are coming from are so childish. And yes, not a word about around a dozen photographers shoulder to shoulder outside his house this morning. One rule for one......
But in contrast, not a peep about important matters like hundreds of illegal immigrants crossing the channel every day aided and abetted by the French who are escorting some of the boats and handing them over to our Border Farce.
Now that should be headline news.
Don't hear anything about it from other party's either.
Their silence is deafening.
You Mean you don’t like Dom Cummings.
So this is a good excuse to attack him.
Got it.
At least he didn’t shirk the job like most of the public sector.
Apart from being ill, he has been hard at it. Wish we had more with his can do attitude.
Trevor. If a great many people hadn’t driven all across the country, you would have starved by now.
Government is also essential. As is hiding away when you have symptoms. Boris did so at chequers. Should he have stayed at number 10 infecting all and sundry there?
For a GREAT many people London is only a place they work, not where they live or have their roots or support network. They live multiple location lives.
All the MPs locked down ultimately drove back to their constituencies, including many of Cummings’ accusers. How are they different?
So No case to answer, except give him a thank you for not shirking.
Meanwhile.
I had cause to talk to the pension regulator about an employee.
All they do in normal time is email, telephone or write.
But No social distancing issues with public.
But they are down on a skeleton staff, and taking time to answer. Which irritates me since I pay their wages.
In your frame of reference they are top people:
They are using covid as excuse to shirk, and not do essential travel , to stay at home.
That is what I call “ wrong”
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Originally Posted by Stagger
all of a sudden there'll be droves of Forumites quoting and bigging up the Daily Mail reader :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jackd
Stolly has probably got a daily delivery sorted form the local newsagents in Settle ;)
On the chequer boards on the M1 around Junction 46 that I could see from my bike ride said ESSENTIAL TRAVEL ONLY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
He's broken his own rules.
That Sir is hypocritical, which makes his position untenable.
After seeing his interview, your dam right I don't like him.
He considered himself above everyone.
what were you doing on the M1? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
I am certain Cummings was better isolated than in London.
He was back at work as soon as he could.
His journey compromised nobody. It was not for leisure.
You think it Is a virtuous existence to sit at home on the public payroll? Sniping at Cummings?
Was your trip to the golf course “necessary” ?
How twisted our world has become.
What concerns me is the start of the tsunami:
Rolls Royce. Virgin airways. Landrover. They are just the start.
Renault May go under.
With virgin, other airlines cancelling, even airbus and Boeing are threatened.
An army in all their supply chains. And that army no longer has buying power.
A myriad of other industries dead on their feet,
All the private staff furloughed on 80 percent whose spending power is now zero,
Landlords who are not paid will go bust.
Economic devastation without precedent.
The weight of which will all fall on banks. They will collapse as well.
But all that really matters is where Cummings isolated?, heh stagger?
Got your priorities right, I see.
He needs to be back at work, streamlining the unfit for purpose civil service, that for far too long has lived off the fat, refusing to change.
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Originally Posted by Stagger
Any way you cut it, wrong decisions were made. Yes, there was a potential safeguarding issue for their child if both parents became incapacitated. But that was not the case at the time. PM implies journey was made with his approval. Wrong call. Sends the wrong message. Far better for him to have ordered DC to stay put and promise provision of care IF NEEDED. Not sure about the barnards castle sighting. Fake news??
That being said my son in law and daughter are both front line NHS. If they had got ill I would have driven from Wales to Yorkshire to rescue grandchildren, lockdown or no.
Was it essential travelling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
My job is my job, they choose the terms of payment.
Did the trip to golf take place under lockdown guidance or when it had been reviewed?
Hippocrates in positions of power in whatever sector of employment is totally against my principles.
Yep I agree the economy will probably down turn for 5 to 10 years.
The banks and stock markets won't make as much money and the working classes will do what they always do. Work and sort it out.
PS I'm an apprentice trained fabricator/welder who changed profession to teach the skills of my trade.
What Wheeze said. The Government was insisting repetitively that there were only four reasons for leaving home. Arranging childcare wasn't one of them; maybe it should have been.
Anyway, as Oracle points out, the real reason that Cummings should be sacked is not because of this minor error of judgement, but because the Government of which he is the most senior adviser has taken decisions that will devastate the economy.
As we just watched a plane going over leaving its clean vapour trail against the blue sky, I commented "there's old Dom going on his jollies because his kids need some time abroad"
Oh and let's wave the quarantine as it only applies to the masses.
We don't know whether he compromised somebody or not. For example, we don't know whether he stopped off en route to get petrol, when he may himself have been infected at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
Also, is it true that he went with his wife on day trip to Barnard Castle, which is more than 25 miles from Durham? I appreciate he was better by then but if true that hardly constitutes driving a reasonable distance to exercise (the rules at the time).
As somebody who was one of the architects of the Government's lockdown strategy, it's not great for the Government's credibility if he is not following the rules that apply to the rest of us.
I'm no fan of the twitter lynch mob that is out to get him but Cummings does have questions to answer.
He is supposed to be giving a statement at 3, which hopefully will address these questions. Until then, I am reserving judgement.
At the time - but do you think having one of the parents with it, they should have waited until perhaps they were both in intensive care like the PM and others and then their 4 year old autistic child may have been in the hands of Islington Social Services?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
I'm sure you don't from what I've seen of your posts over the years, and like you, I'd have been at the service of my children and grandchildren if they needed me, regardless of the lockdown.
Timing is brilliant. 4pm on a hot and sunny bank holiday.
How many other announcements by the government have been at 4pm???
Listening to the questions from supposedly senior members of the press to Dominic Cummings it is obvious that they had planned them before his press conference but still continued to ask them.
They obviously have no interest in the truth and are just continuing nothing more than a witch hunt against a decent man.
Absolute arseholes. They should be embarrassed.
I did not know much about him before this but he has certainly gone up in my estimation.
I thought he came across extremely well - but - but - he does not accept that as far as many are concerned, he broke the rules that they have been following, often to their detriment. The eye sight test drive - a bit odd for an intelligent person to think that such a test would be appropriate - presumably if you don’t crash you are safe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
I have certainly changed my ideas about him as a person, but that does not mean he was right. The shouting/yelling mob outside his house should go home and leave him and his family in peace.
Will he survive? We will see ….
All sorts of rumours and theories flying around on Facebook and elsewhere. He may be many things but one thing is for sure, DC loves to play strategy games and all this may be yet another. Nothing is what it seems with this one.
He mounts a very plausible defence which would be fine if he were the man in the street....but he is not. He is in the public eye and should have come to different arrangements. Surely the privilege of government service could have provided assistance for his particular circumstances??
He came across quite well, not least because he didn’t fit the profile of a “monster” that our liberal media have presented him as. I’m still not totally convinced that he did the right thing. Perhaps he has legally complied but there must be many people in the same position as Cummings and his wife who didn’t realise such an option was available to them given the relentless stay at home message.
What did shine through was the outright hostility of the media representatives, who clearly hate Cummings with a passion and not for his actions in going to Durham.
It is nice when we can all have differing views and still be pleasant about it. No bitching or name calling is wonderful.
Thank you ��
Virtual hug me old mucker! Not many of us left from t'owd days are there??
So the new government slogan is 'Be Reasonable' replacing 'Be Alert' which nobody seemed to understand