Thanks for your support in my difficult time.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCrniLQGYc
Not a nice dog.
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Thanks for your support in my difficult time.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCrniLQGYc
Not a nice dog.
Half way through the next book, 'The Field' by Lynne McTaggart, the weird gets weirder.
It's been quite useful to start to learn about the mechanics and determinants of human behaviour. There are no quick and easy answers anywhere, but the very process of this self-education seems to be enlightening in some respect.
Consciousness it seems is quantum not biochemical. Nobody has conducted a specific experiment to confirm it once and for all, but countless other studies in fields like Biology and Quantum Physics have all pointed strongly in this direction. Consciousness is everywhere, not just in the brain. It is attractor patterns in elementary particles, some generated by ourselves, some sourced from an infinite energy source called the Zero Point Field which bahaves like a database of human consciousness. The Zero Point Field is the subject of Heisenberg's 'Uncertainty Principal', though he didn't know it at the time.
If my inclinations are right, it seems as though a person who is depressed can be repaired to a certain degree by copying the way other people interact with the Field and elementary particles. The Field and the quantum nature of our own consciousness posess a quality called 'Nonlocality' which means cells can copy others without being near them. An Experimental Biophysicist called Popp discovered that cells in developing foetuses communicate using Photons, not hormones or other chemicals, to form the shape of the finished animal. This is the way that a leg becomes a leg, not an arm, and how a hand is on the end of an arm not a leg. By socialising with other people, nonlocality will enable your own cells to copy and learn from the manner in which the cells of other people manipulate the Field and interact with elementary particles such as Photons. The healthy have an innate ability to repair the unhealthy without actually doing anything.
I think i know what a ghost is now too, and they're real.
interesting stuff, so what is a ghost ?
Well, firstly let me be clear that the following is just my own scientific mind speculating on the consequences of new information. Nothing more than the subjective. The brain doesn't see with electrical signals alone, it converts what you see into quantum interference waves, which are the language of the Field. This is where the research papers lose me a bit- it has to do this in order to facilitate memory, which isn't actually in the brain, but in the Zero Point Field. The brain acts as an encoder which commits data to the Field and uses it as a database. This database is what facilitates the acquisition of random information by means of Kinesiologic Muscle Testing, as demonstrated in double blind trials carried out by Dr David Hawkins' team over the course of 15yrs of research. If the brain and the Field both talk in the same language then the exchange of data can be reciprocative, and aspects of the Field can 'hack' the brain. It's my opinion that a ghost is interference waves in the field existing as a result of someone elses consciousness now inhabiting the Field, not their now long-gone body, accessing the mind of a living body. The visualisation of this is the result of the fact that the brain has to convert interference waves recieved in the visual system back into electrical signals and feed them back to the retinas. Apparently it has to do this in order to facilitate spatial awareness and 3D vision, some kind of feedback mechanism.Quote:
Originally Posted by foggon
People have done all sorts of animal experiments on this subject, severing 99% of a cat's optic nerve does not cause it to lose 99% of its vision. Some guy systematically burned out every part of a rat's brain, on successive subjects not the same one, and they always remembered where the food was. He never was able to locate and destroy the part of the brain where memory is; because it isn't in the brain it's in the Field.
I recently read that the Zero Point Field has enough energy in 1m3 to boil all the water on earth; and that the contents of the Library of Congress, if stored in the Field, would occupy a space the size of a sugar cube.
I can imagine that this subject isn't something everyone's going to believe or even like, but it feels coherent and right for me. To deny it in the face of what i have read would be similar in scope to saying, "meteorites don't exist because stones don't come from the sky".
Cheers for that Mr B bit over my head tbh , but will read through it a few times
Luke, just reading and attempting to understand that makes me depressed. I think that I'll opt for "just getting on with life".
I often wonder if some of these "experts" just confuse us into deeper depression as a means of self-perpetuating their own careers?
Ian.
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Originally Posted by mr brightside
Mr B, Zero Point Field is a fascinating explanation of everything I have intuitively felt about the so called mysteries of live like what is heaven, how does acupuncture work, how do magicians work, what is Chi etc etc. Great find...thanks! It really makes absolute sense. Quantum is such a mind bending subject but you gotta try to understand.
How that helps with your depression is not entirely clear to me but anything has got to better than the drugs.
Hey Ian, of the guys who've researched this area of science- Fritz-Albert Popp, Hal Puthoff, Karl Pribram- how many of them has anyone heard of? Those 3 are just a handful. They've mostly found grant money by whoring themselves to some intended military application of some sort, though NASA have funded a few on a propulsion research basis. Their papers have been met with no applause by the scientific community at large, though due to the validity of their work, they have recieved no scorn just a wall of silence. To fundamentally accept what they have found would mean huge changes in policy and direction, it's easier for the powers that be to just turn a blind eye, and to press they have conveniently considered all Zero Point Field work as "Lacking in context or paradigm".Quote:
Originally Posted by wheezing donkey
Simon, it's not at all clear to me either. It can't hurt to work the problem from a new angle, the only thing i have to lose is my depression and my anxiety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
Zero Point Field theory feels very right and coherent to me. I've learnt to trust my feelings, and learnt why they can be trusted and how they can be applied to problem solving.
I love the idea that thoughts have energy and therefore can be considered as matter...puts a whole new spin on 'concrete thoughts' doesn't it? My old man always taught me to use the benefits of positive thinking.
Mind you, the worst of this is that maybe there is something in the 'cosmic ordering' that Noel Edmonds spouts on about!!!;)
The science of positive thinking looks to go a bit like this. If you think positively you align yourself with 'attractor fields' that are of a very high energy. There is a 'scale if consciousness' which calibrates emotions and thoughts on a scale of 1-1000. The scale is logarithmic not linear, so 300 is not twice the power of 150 but 10 to the power 300.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
http://isilia.com/diverse%20blider/skala.jpg
An 'Attractor' is a mathematical term for something which is locally chaotic, but has large scale patterns. This one of the terms i don't fully understand the use of, but it is used to refer to an energy field used by or generated by a person.
Some people just know the benefit of positive thinking and don't need to be taught it. It is logical to assume that some of us have retained the ability to use the Field in this way, and just know in their hearts that they are doing right. When you meet someone who is very effective at being human in this way you know because you'll want to be around them, your subconscious mind will want to learn from them by monitoring their interference waves. I've had this experience myself, it can be very confusing for you if it turns out to be a pretty girl!
There are very few people above 500, Mother Teresa and Ghandi both calibrate at 700. The average for the whole of human kind is 207, christmas calibrates at 535 which i don't understand. Religious fundamentalism be it Islam or Christian calibrates at 150, and translated scriptures such as the King James Bible lose about 300 in the translation process. Kinesiologic Muscle Testing is used to get a calibration, it can be done on any living person as we are all connected to everything that has ever happened and to eachother via the Zero Point Field.
Sorry - can't concentrate enough to even read all these insightful posts, let alone begin to understand them. WAY over my head.
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Don't worry about that, Leaf, I've got a PhD in Maths and I can't understand them (not that I've made a great effort to look into Zero Point Field, etc, to be honest). It seems to work for Mr B, which is great; but each individual just needs to try and find out what keeps the black dog away from him/herself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaf
thanks, anthonykay.
Mine's always been more of a skulking wolf than a black dog. At times, particularly when I'm with friends, the wolf seems so distant that I can almost begin to think it's gone, but no, it's just biding its time until I'm alone and tired. Then he closes in. Sometimes he brings the whole wolf pack with him.
Being honest is good Leaf.
You will tame your wolf and learn to live in harmony.
All the best ��
Its really not so hard to get your head around. Its simply think good thoughts and you will think yourself well. Think negative thoughts and the reverse applies.
Its hard to think good thoughts when you are depressed....that's the nature of the beast. Thats where the kinestheologic training comes in I guess.
From what i've been reading, the wolf feels distant when you are with friends because you are coming into contact with high level energy fields. The parts of your brain receptive to such sorts of energy will copy its patterns and replicate them around your body making you feel well and comfortable. The energy is freely available to anybody and is floating around everywhere, your body also produces it by giving off light in the form of Photons at a wavelength of 380 Nanometres. The characteristics of the energy you absorb will influence your mood, and the characteristics of the energy you give off will influence the way people interact with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leaf
I've been told by a very reliable source that it's harmful to empower your 'demons' by objectifying them, such as your wolf/family of wolves analogy. Instead, just realise that there is no wolf and that it's your brain, your thoughts and that you are a good and well-meaning person. Tell yourself you're only doing the best you can, which you are. That is the reality of the situation...there is no wolf.
My background in classical physics and mechanical science has been very useful, there are no calculations as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
My background in classical physics and mechanical science has been very useful, there are no calculations as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
Good ideas Luke, just need the training.
Got to be positive for upcoming mediation.
Viewpoints and opinions are the result of arbitrary points of perception. We live in a world of observable effects, not identifiable causes. Stress comes from attempting to impose some sort of causality on these effects. No divorce is ever going to be easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
Aye, I have suffered more than when my mum died.
15months and zero progress.
Mediation, court, or what ever, all I look for is closure.
I would like my life back.
Sleep disruption and bad thoughts are no way to live.
I will enter mediation with an open mind and positive to end the hurt.
Mediation is a joke, mediator just after the £240 an hour.
Court because no party is willing to concede.
Old dogs for hard roads.
Weigh it all up Trevor. Solicitors etc take that much as well and for a lot more hours if you go to court. Also take into account the extra stress, the time frame being greatly extended and the fact that the course may not decide in the way you would like them to. Can you ask a close friend, who can step back a little, to consider the best course for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
Very good advice and I thank you for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr1470
I wish we could get someone help. I'm at rock bottom and struggling.
Settlement of the finances is all that's needed.
I did ask for more communication but was told "not to correspond in any way"
Closure please?
Stagger, you really need a trusted friend to help you now. As Mr1470 says, the courts may make it worse. You need to take control for your own sanitys sake. Sometimes that means walking away, who knows? But a trusted friend might.
take care. Thoughts are with you and everyone affected by this. Try not to share too much here.
Thanks Wheeze.
It would be nice to have a friend who could attempt the mantel.
But alas that is not available.
Fully understand your point about posting but lacking people to off load too and listen to advice are few and far between.
I will take it on board as a moderator requested similar.
Life is so tough and there is no light in the tunnel after 16months.
44hr working, 10hr travelling and 20hr house work.
I've never before had to make a decision this big with this much at stake, but what i do know is that your depression will be clouding your judgement. It tries to cloud my judgement in a very damaging way most days, but i've developed the mental power to reel it in to a greater degree. Ask yourself who's in control here- your own clear judgement or a maelstrom of negative energy.
You're doing the best you can under the circumstances. The circumstances aren't favourable, but they never were going to be. What's on the table is the reality of the situation right now; to say it's good or bad is an imposition of causality, the giving of an opinion from an arbitrary viewpoint. To put it another way; you cannot waste time- it's impossible. The bit about the time being spent well or wasted is nothing but a story, a story resulting from a personal opinion entering the fray at some point.
Your settlement that is on the table is the reality of the situation right now and it's the only thing you can be totally sure of. That and the fact that you have only ever done the best you can through this whole thing. The concept of 'nonduality' is one i keep coming accross in my research all the time, and always associated with high levels of consciousness. There is no good/bad, just 'what is'...there is no win/lose, just 'the outcome'...there is no me and them, just 'us'. It is difficult to mobilise this concept into actions, i fail regularly, but have had moments of clarity with it too.
I'd echo 1470's advice about getting a mate to take a look at what's on the table too, there's a few on here you could turn to for sure.
^ Mr B this is genius. Lucid, and absolutely the truth. Thanks
Trev, I'm with the others find a mate to talk to about it and then get it sorted. You're wasting your life with all the stress and tension. Resolve it asap and then move on
Thanks for all the support.
I don't have a close mate, only my 2 sons.
I'm like a recluse with the depression.
But I would like closure so I can move on with my life.
There are a few on here you could ask. Just as long as they know it's a personal two-penneth and not financial advice. I've had to lean on people heavily too; i've found myself ringing people up and asking them to confirm that they are still my friends and that i didn't insult them horrifically last night or whatever. Part of my mind wants me to believe that i am an island because i am a bad person and a worthless human being. The idea that you are an island is duality maxed out, it's a defence mechanism not a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
The emotional sequence runs as follows: Failure(as a person)--> Resentment(of everyone including myself)--> Anger(at anything and everyone)
The emotional slide follows this sequence in everyone, not just myself, and i can work it backwards from your position of Anger. The situation will largely solve itself once you realise you haven't failed anyone including yourself at any point. How can you possibly have done anything else apart from the best you can?
Byron Katie taught me that i don't have to condone reality or approve of it, and neither does anyone else. To accept it i just have to realise that it was meant to happen that way because it did, there is nothing else that i can be totally sure of. We argue with reality because we don't know how to stop. I'm beginning to see through my now wider field of view that there are no accidents in the universe; the fundamental rule of the universe is Economy. Nothing is meaningless and you are in this position for a reason- most likely to learn.
Not doing too well, really. Had a period of real progress, but have now slid back into old habits.
Books recently read include: 'What the bleep do we know'- written in a fairly over excited, right brain style. Some good content though, especially on Neuronets.
'Dr. Quantum's little book of big ideas' Fred Alan Wolf- Good food for thought.
Currently reading 'Healing and Recovery' David R Hawkins.
A really solid pal recently found herself a new bloke and left my life, disappeared very suddenly indeed. I was hanging in the air for weeks, floating like a cloud of gas not quite knowing which way i was going to go, then the cloud of gas condensed into rocks and started heading to the ground at terminal velocity. We used to hang out in the hills and go see films etc. all the things we have in common, she was a huge source of support to me.
The mistake i made was to attatch to the thought that i'd regularly have someone to go out with and support me. By doing this i had unwittingly placed the source of my own happiness and power outside of myself. The source of one's power and happiness is only ever 'in here', and never 'out there'. This sits paradoxically against the human need for companionship and company, a paradox i have yet to comprehend. The result of placing the source of my happiness and power soley in this friendship is that i am now in the mode of 'victim'; i am the victim of the loss of my happiness, and all the negative energy fields that go with it. I feel i have failed, and have had to check if i have offended said friend and driven her away, and apologise upfront for things i'm not aware whether i've even done or not. I have been living in an illiusion, an illusion created by my own mind's insecurities, the illusion of security which in reality was weakness. My mind subconsciously invested everything outside of itself into a social relationship which was guaranteed to drastically change at some point. The victim state carries with it a terrible legacy, that of 'failure-> resentment-> anger'.
Despite knowing where true happiness and power need to be located, i lack the tools to put them there. I'm not dealing with single thoughts, but an entire belief system which is very strong. It is a belief system based on the biggest lie of all- the notion that happiness is external to oneself.
I am currently adopting one of the early steps of the 12-step program, and surrendering to the will of a higher power. In essence this is designed to halt vicious internal conflict, nothing else. I am currently working with the belief statement: "I no longer believe in my ailments. I am an infinite being, and am not subject to them. I am subject only to what i hold in mind".
Its really interesting reading your thoughts Mr B and very helpful to me.
In my line of work I am used to the huge difference between people in reaction to physical pain. Anything from 'didn't feel a thing' to screaming the walls down for the exact same thing.
Reading what you say makes me realise that it is very similar for mental pain. Whereas some would shrug off being dumped and pick up with their lives, other will be completely paralysed by the feelings of despair and undergo the sort of internal visualisation that you are displaying.. I can't offer much more than to empathise and to tell you that I understand. Of course the first reaction of a roughty toughty bloke is say stop being a wimp and get a grip of yourself. But that would be as unfair as me being cruel to one of my pain-sensitised patients.
Hope you come through this latest kick-back. You only have this one life. Don't waste it in a fog of negativity.
The book i'm currently on deals heavily with the principal that the body manifests what the mind believes. The author has a staggering list of ailments which he claims to have shifted by releasing his beliefs in their power over his body: Duodenal Ulcer, Diverticulitis, Arthritis, Gout, Hay fever, Diabetes. It makes bizarre reading, but it's worth noting, though he never says specifically, that he achieved a consciousness level around the 600s by my estimates. It's not that having a sub-200 level consciousness causes a range of illnesses, rather that a sub-200 renders the mind so powerless that it is unable to effectively heal and defend the body. Sub 200 is life damaging by means of negative belief systems proliferating, and abdication of power to a source external to the mind.
That's what i like about Psych-K. The field of Kinesiologic Muscle Testing is an utter hornet's nest; something kicked off in the US with people getting scammed and dodgy quack healers etc. its online reputation is literally in tatters. Hawkins researched it for 15yrs and swears by it, but only if used under tightly controlled conditions. Its power to diagnose lies in the connection between body and mind, what the mind believes the body will manifest under controlled test conditions. Lines of questioning can then used to reveal the lie to the mind, such as Byron Katie's 'Four Questions', the mind will let go of anything once it has had the illusion revealed, then new belief systems are put in place with belief statement work. The subconscious mind's corrosive and life-destructive beliefs were generally programmed in during childhood- this is the case for me, massively! The subconscious thankfully retains this childlike innocence and suggestibility and can be taught to let go and reattatch to powerful beliefs.
Your pain sensitive patients would likely make partial recoveries at least from releasing their beliefs in the pain, or whatever it may be that they believe in that is causing the dysfunction. It's not as simple as it sounds though; you have to build new Neuronets and allow others to become disused, disused nets generally disintegrate depending on how dominant they are. The book 'what the bleep do we know' has a very good section on this. The nets that enable self healing and spiritual wellbeing are absent in a lot of western culture people because of our general disbelief in the value of 'that kind of hippy crap'.
Box breathing and general meditation-like activities reconnect areas of the brain that are virtually disconnected. What the bleep's experts reckon the best time to do this is when you just wake up in the morning; just take a minute or so to tell yourself who you are, what you believe in, and what beliefs you are cancelling. Fred Alan Wolf and Stuart Hameroff go as far to say that you CREATE your own reality, reality does not unfold itself in front of you, they take the concept as far as the collapsing of Quantum Wave Functions and what is known as The Observer Effect. Some enigmatic Sage that took part called Ramtha says, "no masters worth their salt ever let the day create them; rather, they create their day".
Sharing this here, just a short film but reveals a lot, relevant to a lot of us.
https://www.outsideonline.com/219327...yst-his-career
Thanks Curry, made be shiver while watching it.
Gradually chewing through 'Entangled Minds' by Dean Radin, a fascinating read. I qualified as a Psych-K facilitator at the weekend, having a lot of teething trouble doing balances on myself though.
I need to stop hating my mother. She's responsible for a lot of bad programming in my subconscious, but her flaws are the result of her own bad programming for which she isn't responsible. Trouble is she's still at it today, she can't stop being punitive and marginalising.
Top insight Mr B.
You have stumbled upon a big responsibility.
Although you realise that many of your issues stem from your Mum, they probably were passed down to her by HER parents and who knows how many cycles of dysfunction before that.
Your insight allows you the chance to break that cycle, free yourself and not inflict it on the next generation.
The Beatles had it in a nutshell....'Love is All You Need'.
I hope your reading is helping you in the long term.
Knowledge is power. Power not over people or things, but power as in self-empowerment. It's Power not power, and never resorting to force.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger