Borrowdale Fell Race

Pencil us in, to be confirmed once childcare sorted;

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup
Graeme
Calf
Mr1470
The Juicer

(tried to do a pencil sort of colour!)

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Originally Posted by emmilou

BORROWDALE RECCE - TAKE 2!!:D

Saturday July 21st

10am - scarfell hotel carpark (please not there is now a £3 charge for all day parking)

Please share transport where possible!!

Please let me know who is coming then we know who to wait for! Thanks!

(copy and paste adding your name to the list below:D )

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup

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Ideal warmup for the Gravy 6

Just been reminded by my other half that we are on holday oops i'll see you on the 4th .

Can't make the reccie - hope you all enjoy yourselves!

Don't loose anybody:eek:

huwski are you up for this recce mate :o

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Originally Posted by daz h

huwski are you up for this recce mate :o

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think it's gonna take some bribing Daz - it's the first day of his long summer holidays:rolleyes:



*perhaps the thought of several lost and stranded fell runners on a summit somewhere may prick his conscience??!)*

when are people planning to do this?

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Originally Posted by Roger Rabbit

when are people planning to do this?

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weve already provisionally booked scafell,gable and dalehead for the saturday

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Originally Posted by Roger Rabbit

when are people planning to do this?

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here you go RR!!
are you going to try and make it?

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Originally Posted by emmilou

BORROWDALE RECCE - TAKE 2!!:D

Saturday July 21st

10am - scarfell hotel carpark (please not there is now a £3 charge for all day parking)

Please share transport where possible!!

Please let me know who is coming then we know who to wait for! Thanks!

(copy and paste adding your name to the list below:D )

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup

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Count me in Emmilou, I was planning to do one this weekend so I thought I should check the forum see if other are too and her you all are, great stuff.


BORROWDALE RECCE - TAKE 2!!

Saturday July 21st

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup
Grit Britain

Whoa there....what's happened to me and Juicer being pencilled in?!?

(that's your fault Emmilou;) )

BORROWDALE RECCE - TAKE 2!!

Saturday July 21st

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup
Grit Britain
The Juicer
Mr1470

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Originally Posted by Mr1470

Whoa there....what's happened to me and Juicer being pencilled in?!?

(that's your fault Emmilou;) )

BORROWDALE RECCE - TAKE 2!!

Saturday July 21st

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup
Grit Britain
The Juicer
Mr1470

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cmon you two , its been a long time since grisedale, would be nice to see you two again
anymore for anymore

BORROWDALE RECCE - TAKE 2!!

Saturday July 21st

Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup
Grit Britain
Graeme
Calf
The Juicer
Mr1470

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Originally Posted by Mr1470

Whoa there....what's happened to me and Juicer being pencilled in?!?

(that's your fault Emmilou;) )

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everything always is!!:rolleyes:

see you there!!

You're looking good Emm. Will that be your kit for the recce? ;)

Looking forward to it :)


Emmilou
Daz H
Moo
Sunnysideup
Grit Britain
Graeme
Calf
The Juicer
Mr1470

Speaking of kit ...
Can any of you who did the last recce advise on a suitable choice of shoes?
Is it simply Walsh, Walsh or Walsh, or did anyone try anything else?

I wore Walsh Ultras and they worked fine for me. Others had various Inov-8s. Ask Huwski about his!

I wouldn't recommend Gladiators. They'd be far too slippery on the rocks.

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Originally Posted by Tussockface

Speaking of kit ...
Can any of you who did the last recce advise on a suitable choice of shoes?
Is it simply Walsh, Walsh or Walsh, or did anyone try anything else?

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the rest of the gang will tell you that my walshs was a tad on the worn side:rolleyes: but i hammered it down the scree off scafell full pelt and they coped very well, my advice would be to make sure your fell shoes are well bedded in as this route at race pace will no doubt tell on the feet.

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Originally Posted by daz h

my advice would be to make sure your fell shoes are well bedded in as this route at race pace will no doubt tell on the feet.

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I'm sure that's right (not that the 'race pace' factor is particularly relevant in my case). My worry is, that Walshes tend to flay my feet if I wear them for more than a couple of hours, especially my new(ish) PB Racers. That's why I wondered if there were any alternatives. Thanks for your replies.

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Originally Posted by Tussockface

I'm sure that's right (not that the 'race pace' factor is particularly relevant in my case). My worry is, that Walshes tend to flay my feet if I wear them for more than a couple of hours, especially my new(ish) PB Racers. That's why I wondered if there were any alternatives. Thanks for your replies.

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not sure what flay your feet means
PB racers are very light, i may put mine on for the race , the ultras that marvin had on looked very nice
shame he didnt leave them in the car park:rolleyes:

whatever you have on i think its going to be pain pain pain over the last part of the race :eek:

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Originally Posted by Tussockface

My worry is, that Walshes tend to flay my feet if I wear them for more than a couple of hours, especially my new(ish) PB Racers. That's why I wondered if there were any alternatives.

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I wore Swoops, believe it or not, and although I was the slowest they were comfortable throughout.

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Originally Posted by daz h

not sure what flay your feet means

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It means that you have feet minus skin.

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Originally Posted by Tussockface

It means that you have feet minus skin.

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eck what socks you wearing

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Originally Posted by Swoop

I wore Swoops, believe it or not, and although I was the slowest they were comfortable throughout.

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That's important, isn't it. I take Daz's point about the pain that's inevitable by the end, but if you can reduce the number of parts of your body that are screaming "STOP, YOU FOOL", it has to be a Good Thing.

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Originally Posted by daz h

eck what socks you wearing

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Socks?!
Nobody told me about socks. You mean you have to wear them as well?!;)

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Originally Posted by Tussockface

Socks?!
Nobody told me about socks. You mean you have to wear them as well?!;)

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its got to be pete blands


i just need to find a pair with no holes in em

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Originally Posted by daz h

I just need to find a pair with no holes in em

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How would you get them on your feet?:confused: :D

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Originally Posted by Daleside

now when you guys went for your reccy the other week - dom said that daz and huwski went one way and sunnysideup , dom and emmilou went another way off sca fell pike - I'm trying to work out which ways you went because dom semed to be convinced that Daz's route involved no back tracking what so ever and therefore daz must have taken something like route C! which looks pretty awful to me - (not becasue of the steepness but cos of the size of the boulders you have to cross lower down) so does that mean that the sunny, dom emmilou group went down route B and no one (on your recce) went down route A......???

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daleside come on the recce and i will show you the quickest way off the top, for a brief few seconds you think shit no way but then you just let go and bomb down , come on you need to do it on the recce

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Originally Posted by Daleside

now when you guys went for your reccy the other week - dom said that daz and huwski went one way and sunnysideup , dom and emmilou went another way off sca fell pike - I'm trying to work out which ways you went because dom semed to be convinced that Daz's route involved no back tracking what so ever and therefore daz must have taken something like route C! which looks pretty awful to me - (not particularly becasue of the steepness but cos of the size of the boulders you have to cross lower down) so does that mean that the sunny, dom emmilou group went down route B and no one (on your recce) went down route A......???

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No Daleside - you need to get facts straight. Dom went the chicken way by back tracking whereas Emmilou, Daz, Brett, myself and lots more went straight over the edge.

Like Daz says you need to come on the next recce to see for yourself.

To be honest there was no visibility so I'm not sure which way people went.
I was left behind on Scafell Pike but saw Huwski go straight off the top (C?). I backtracked to the col (probably A but could have been B). Daz should know because he came down with me after he had come looking for me!

well when i went up on friday I had a good look at this straight off the top route (C?) i dont fancy it because of the boulders you have to cross - anyway i think I'm going to get rid of this picture before anyone sees it and decides to try it and it isnt actually a route - i suppose the only person who can answer is Huwski........ S~d it! I'm going to make this pic my avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I remember crossing Moo as i went up sca fell pike (on the race last year)- she was coming off it as i was still going up, she was heaing for the scree of her choice and I was still asking folk whcih scree they were going for - i think going for scree B (which I did on the race) saved me 5 mins - I went down the scree B VERY fast, I had found scree A very slow and un safe like - adding to the problem is that people (normal walking type people)were coming up scree A so you cant get a clear run - I made the cut off last year by about 4 mins so that choice of scree route for me was essential, i really dont think choosing C if it were a route would be any w#quicker than B - cos of those boulders at the bottom - that would slow me down -we all run differently however on differnt terrain though.

sunny - are you going to danefield tomorrow?:)

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Originally Posted by Daleside

and I remember crossing Moo as i went up sca fell pike (on the race last year)- she was coming off it as i was still going up, she was heaing for the scree of her choice and I was still asking folk whcih scree they were going for - i think going for scree B (which I did on the race) saved me 5 mins - I went down the scree B VERY fast, I had found scree A very slow and un safe like - adding to the problem is that people (normal walking type people)were coming up scree A so you cant get a clear run - I made the cut off last year by about 4 mins so that choice of scree route for me was essential, i really dont think choosing C if it were a route would be any w#quicker than B - cos of those boulders at the bottom - that would slow me down -we all run differently however on differnt terrain though.

sunny - are you going to danefield tomorrow?:)

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daleside use route B

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Originally Posted by Daleside

and I remember crossing Moo as i went up sca fell pike (on the race last year)- she was coming off it as i was still going up, she was heaing for the scree of her choice and I was still asking folk whcih scree they were going for - i think going for scree B (which I did on the race) saved me 5 mins - I went down the scree B VERY fast, I had found scree A very slow and un safe like - adding to the problem is that people (normal walking type people)were coming up scree A so you cant get a clear run - I made the cut off last year by about 4 mins so that choice of scree route for me was essential, i really dont think choosing C if it were a route would be any w#quicker than B - cos of those boulders at the bottom - that would slow me down -we all run differently however on differnt terrain though.

sunny - are you going to danefield tomorrow?:)

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I dont think route C exists!!!!!

Route A is the backtrack, and I dont like it either!

Route B does not involve a back track: you bee line the top of the scree which from memory ( no map to hand ) is due N, where the back track route A is more NE

Theres a massive drop where you show route C, and whilst we tried going further towards lingmell on a previous reccie ( beyond C) the ground is no good for fast running - going down to lingmell col and the start of the corridor is OK as an idea, but it is further and probably loses a couple of minutes.

no route C doesnt exist , to steep , and to slow
route B is very quick going down if you just hit the scree , lean back a tad and dig in
its worth recceing just to know what to expect on the day cos if you have never done it before it can be daunting

daleside did someone tell you theres a route down point C

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Originally Posted by daz h

no route C doesnt exist , to steep , and to slow
route B is very quick going down if you just hit the scree , lean back a tad and dig in
its worth recceing just to know what to expect on the day cos if you have never done it before it can be daunting

daleside did someone tell you theres a route down point C

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Route D heads back down path came up on and shoot a bearing over a rock on the grassy plateau that looks like a turtle(seriously!) and you hit the top of the screes bang on

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Originally Posted by daz h

no route C doesnt exist , to steep , and to slow
route B is very quick going down if you just hit the scree , lean back a tad and dig in
its worth recceing just to know what to expect on the day cos if you have never done it before it can be daunting

daleside did someone tell you theres a route down point C

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all this confusion is based on a conversation i had with dom the day after you did your recce. but i appreciate it was a poor day that you did your recce on .

I do believe always injured has actually settled my worries on this! thanks for your post - shoudl I take the picture down now so not to confuse cyber generations of borrowdalers reading it out of context!

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Originally Posted by Daleside

shoudl I take the picture down now so not to confuse cyber generations of borrowdalers reading it out of context!

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NO! Absolutely not....

Write a post extolling the virtues of route C, particularly in clag - just put the need for a rope in the fine print!

The plot shows Route A off Scafell Pike - yes, I went that way, but I'm up for route B in the race. Route B is just to the left and I think it comes down beside Dropping Crag - see purple line. I'm sure someone who went down Route B could confirm.

Isn't it funny how pictures (like the featured A,B,& C one) never do a mountain justice......makes Scafell look like a little molehill. If only./.....