Forecast is looking pretty good for Saturday, thankfully.
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Forecast is looking pretty good for Saturday, thankfully.
Site of High Birkwith checkpoint!Attachment 8424
If it's like that down there the tops could be 'interesting' tomorrow. The latest forecast is showing showers bubbling up from the word go with temperatures well down in single figures at low level. I might have to resort to the warmer shorts and thicker vest and pack the Fellsman poncho in the bumbag in case it turns bad. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie5
Forecast has definately deteriorated. Potential heavy showers. Snow on the tops and wet down below I would think.
Going to get the sealskin socks out
You must be looking at different a forecast to me 'cos it does'nt look too bad, sunshine and the odd shower.
Looking out the window, the current conditions are cloudy with outbreaks of sun and a bit of a thaw on Penyghent but plenty of snow up there. :)
The ones I've looked are the same. Visibility is supposed to be good too.
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Originally Posted by Fozzy42
Have I missed the annual "what shoes" debate?
I was just thinking that. The snow has thrown me a bit. XTalons wth an extra set of insoles in them I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by anonymouse
Wellies fr meQuote:
Originally Posted by anonymouse
It's a bugger that the three peaks clashes with the Tour de Yorkshire this year. As an Otley resident I will be at home. Mind you after the Fellsman, there is no way I would be running - some are though. Britnick - you must have a high pain tolerance, and a supportive family. Best wishes to all
Well done to anyone who finished today. I got to Ribblehead within the cut off but decided to call it a day. Didn't have anything in my legs and didn't feel up to climbing Whernside and Ingleborough. The conditions were terrible but I'll be back next year for another go.
I've never had worse cramps than on the descent off Whernside.
Then it subsided for most of the rest of the race
I can't work cramp out - not sure why it happens or how to avoid it in first place or sort it out once it sets in.
I got it in the same place mate, first time I've ever had cramp while running...left hamstring then jogged it off then appeared in the right, race over...Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardB
Same as me. I decided to call it a day shortly after leaving Higher Birkwith. You weren't talking to me after getting out of the broom wagon were you :DQuote:
Originally Posted by wjb
Need more mileage and more climbing.
Back to 5-10 milers I think and try and build from there.
*remembers meeting Manhar on top of Ingleborough with a knot in my right hamstring that felt like it was the size of a tangerine*
Flipping heck that was really hard. My back and knee both held up thanks to my osteo's taping and I can only blame my unfitness for nearly missing the cut off at Hill Inn. I had no power in me whatsoever (felt similar on the Anni Waltz recently) but at least I made it. 5.11, 41 mins slower than my pb but I'm pretty pleased to be one step further on my recovery road :) Thanks to the organisers, fab marshals and all the great supporters that cheered everyone on in rubbish weather, you make the world of difference.
On another note, everyone had to queue to get over the wall at the bottom of Whernside because the farmer had wired a load of pallets across the access point. It took at least five minutes to get through and lots of people missed the cut off at Hill Inn as a result. I'm not sure what can be done to address this in future but it seems that the farmer really didn't want people going through so there must be some kind of issue there. I feel for those that were timed out that would have made it were it not for the queue.
I got cramp in the same place as those above, only second time I have suffered with it in a race. Friends who did race today also cramped up there. First time I've done the race, not enough distance or climbing in my legs and struggled running up Inglebrough and the long drag to the finish but will be back next year, enjoyed the challenge.
Yep that was certainly a tough bugger today, great running on the snow on the tops but horrendous coming down on the slushy slippery rock,especially coming off Whernside where I came down like a right fairy. That was my 10th in a row and was hoping for a pb but not a chance today, finsihed a bit deshevelled in 4hrs 28 mins. Got round in one piece though and live to fight another day.
As fellrunners are we too hard on ourselves?
Way before I'd started fellrunning exercise for me was walking from pub to pub with my mates whilst on our way to the match. This type of 'exercise', especially the older you get is simply not enough....things had to change.
I started getting into walking the fells and in no time started feeling healthier and fitter. A mate from work suggested we should attempt walking The Yorkshire 3 Peaks Challenge in under 12hrs. And that's exactly what we did, my Border Terrier Nellie also joined us. The three of us completed in just over 9hrs and me and my mate thought we'd conquered the world...high fives all round, even Nellie joined in. We rang up our wife's to let them know who 'fit' we were. That night we celebrated our achievement in the pubs of Horton and staggered back to the campsite a little bit hammered. I remember waking up during the night and throwing up outside my tent...Nellie was pleased, she ate it...l was too knackered to stop her.
I've ran the 3 peaks for the last 5yrs and my mate from work always asks me what time I've ran. He never fails to be impressed and often shakes his head in disbelief....similar to myself when I look at the times from some fellow runners.
So...as fellrunners, whatever time you've ran today it's impressive. You might not be pleased with your run, I wasn't pleased with mine, but 99% of the country wouldn't be able to do it.
Thanks to all concerned for another epic day out. Thought it was a lovely gesture by the race commentator in wishing Lindsey Brindle a speedy recovery following her extremely unfortunate accident whilst doing her last training run before the race.....Lindsey's a fell celebrity around our way in deepest Lancashire....top lass, get well soon.
I got cramp at he same place. I don't know if it as he cold or if it starting running too soon after the climb.
3 Peaks provisional results up to 248th position plus selection of photos http://woodentops.org.uk/index.php?topic=home&subtopic=morephotos&photoyear =2016 …
Haha, yes, I was one of those! Missed the cut off by 3 minutes but spent 5 minutes in the queue there, fine margins hey! Will be back next year in a fitter state so I have no excuse for missing any cut off!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hes
Well done on finishing too, recovery sounds like it's going well :)
Yep me to, stood like a lemon to climb over a couple of wired up pallets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hes
Also queued to climb stone stile, I think before High Birkwith check. Yes you
guessed it, those that couldn't be assed to queue started climbing the gate I waited my turn and lost at least a minute to the can't be assed brigade.
Rant nearly finished,don't drop your empty gel packets and leave them, stop and pick them up.
Well put Daz lad, hope u recover as fast as you run Lindsey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindersticks
I also had to stand in line at that wired up stile.
Embarrssingly, I'd taken the stream immediately before it at full speed thinking I'd pick up a couple of places.
I fell in, got soaked, and then realised it was all for nowt as I had to stand in a queue with everyone else on the bank at the other side :-)
All the best too to Lindsey Brindle for full recovery
I nearly cramped up a couple of times coming off Whernside, and I hardly ever cramp up. I also wasn't too knackered at that point. My strong suspicion is that it was the cold (i.e., wetness) that caused it, as I distinctly remember my legs feeling cold, and my legs rarely feel cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardB
Well done today everyone, it was tough out there.
P.S. General tip to avoid cramp: keep well hydrated. Once it sets in, stretch it out as much as you can, and I find giving whatever muscle it is a really good massage helps (which doesn't help if it's toe cramp!).
Mornin' all, yesterday was pretty ridiculous, super tough up Whernside and Ingleborough. For me the cramp didn't kick in until I tried to run the last 200m to the top of Ingleborough. From there it was pretty much survival mode... As an aside have any of you ever had cramp that moved down your calf, like you can feel the painful spot trickling towards your ankle - quite disturbing...
The snow made things look pretty! Winning time not a million miles away from the '96 record either. I think this highlights the conditions quite well.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/My-...O/BW%20PYG.jpg
I was one of those too......very disappointed as I missed the cut off by a minute but queued for what seemed like ages at the foot of Whernside.There must have been at least 40 to 50 people in that queue, and I did feel sorry for the marshall there as he was getting a bit of flack. I think the race organisers should have allowed for this at the Hill Inn check point. I asked one of the officials to phone the race organiser, but he wasn't for budging on the cut-off time. Looking at my Strava Trace - it's telling me 3 hours 19 mins moving time - allowing for 2 or 3 mins at dibber stations - it does suggest a wait of 7 or 8 mins in that queue!
I was quite lucky when I reached this point as there was only a small queue. But some runners have spoken of a huge queue and waiting for 5 minutes or more. This is a real pity for those who missed the cut off as a result. I hope this problem doesn't repeat itself in the future as it is a real shame if that is what makes the difference between getting through and getting timed out at the Hill Inn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hes
As for my race, my legs decided to run about 30 mins slower than last year. I kept telling them to move quicker but they just ignored me!
The marshals, as usual, were brilliant. How can they stand there being blasted by a hailstorm and still be unfailingly cheerful and encouraging as the runners stumble past? Many thanks to all of them.
I have been looking at PPP finishers over the decades. Weather conditions vary but interestingly:
2016 703
2015 702
2014 704
And it was a nice bus ride ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CalFerguson
Massive thanks to the Dark Peak runner who told me at the boardwalk on the Ingleborough descent that I could still get a sub 5 if I put my foot down. Glad you got your sub 5 too and thanks for my hug!!!!!!
There was alot of cramp in the race. I think for me it was the river crossing at the bottom of Whernside. You were getting hit by the cold water and then standing in a queue to climb the pallets straight after so you couldn't warm up your legs up again; I never really managed to work it out of my calves after that point.
Great chatting with you today Darren, as I said I always look forward to your post race posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindersticks
My first 3P for 5 years but a fantastic race as always... although not exactly one of my best efforts. I think the Fellsman from two weeks ago could have still been hanging around in my legs, as was last Wednesday's run up Ben Nevis. I was very slightly crampy at the top of Whernside but soon ran that off only for the cramp to really come back strong on top of Ingleborough. Again I ran that off gradually on the descent to Horton but was bonking quite badly while I was at it. A mini mars bar eventually restored my running powers and I finished the last couple of miles in pretty good nick. 4:43 hrs though :)
Far, far, far too much info 'sticks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tindersticks
I had no problem with cramp and whilst I ache today, I don't have DOMS either. I think that's due to the fact that I just had no power in my legs so I just had to plod around the course. I just ran steady or walked apart from on the descents and the run in to Horton where I was able to get some speed up due to gravity :)
Do you mean the run in to Horton?! I can tell you that gravity was certainly not helping me on the run to Ingleborough!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hes