Pennine Bridleway Relay

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Originally Posted by karen nash

Bit late for me to post this reply in your defence Al but I will anyway.
Yesterday on leg 2 Al was slowed up badly by running with an old lady with a chest infection.
I am sure he would have run faster- in fact it is the slowest I have run that leg!
True, he needed me to tell him where to go but I reckon he could easily have done 1.45 and possibly faster
He needs to find a younger and fitter partner next year

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I'm sure that when you are fit and well that you'll work him hard enough.

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Originally Posted by emmilou

OI!! shite photo :(

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At least you get on the picture properly, unlike Steve - clearly being left in your wake! I hope that you made him work!

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Originally Posted by Witton Park

At least you get on the picture properly, unlike Steve - clearly being left in your wake! I hope that you made him work!

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She left him for dead at the finish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

"It must be love, love love!"

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I told you something was missing off that fell ponies flag.
Big Puffs.:p

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

She left him for dead at the finish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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:eek::eek: Never lost sight of my wing man ;)

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Originally Posted by disco stan

I told you something was missing off that fell ponies flag.
Big Puffs.:p

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We're not all gay....................give us a kiss stanners:D

anytime mate..... just don't let your missus catch us:p:D

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Originally Posted by disco stan

anytime mate..... just don't let your missus catch us:p:D

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She don't mind me kissing blokes cos she knows i'm straight, wonder if i told her i was gay she'd let me kiss girls:confused::D

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Originally Posted by Vince

That would be a second one then, different from the aforementioned one.Team Number 48

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So, I presume no action will be taken against Team 48?

Some great photos here from sunday.
http://www.sleepmonsters.com/photosh...33&photo_id=77

Is this the Sociable One !!!!!

http://www.sleepmonsters.com/photosh...path=7291_7033

Obviously sneaked into Lancashire under the radar on sunday!!

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Originally Posted by Vince

So, I presume no action will be taken against Team 48?

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hello vince, lets get a few things straight from the beginning, i was running in team 50 ( Rossendale Vets ), my team mate failed to show at the start of our leg ( leg 4 ), i talked to the marshalls on the handover and it was agreed that since my car and warm gear were at the end of the leg i could run on, knowing the team would be disquaified, i thought this was the best way of dealing with the situation, if you bother to check the results you'll see we got a 10 hr penalty for that leg instead of being disquaified,

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Originally Posted by Tomsk

Is this the Sociable One !!!!!

http://www.sleepmonsters.com/photosh...path=7291_7033

Obviously sneaked into Lancashire under the radar on sunday!!

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Were the machine gun nests out of working order??

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Originally Posted by wheezing donkey

Were the machine gun nests out of working order??

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Obviously came in under cover of darkness.
Will have to get the search lights checked out.
Must be a maintenance issue!

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Originally Posted by Tomsk

Obviously came in under cover of darkness.
Will have to get the search lights checked out.
Must be a maintenance issue!

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Or the Saturday night platoon were playing cards on duty, again! Heads could roll!!

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Originally Posted by Tomsk

Obviously came in under cover of darkness.
Will have to get the search lights checked out.
Must be a maintenance issue!

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Nobody told me that that the Pennine Bridleway was in lancashire/ Manchester (aren't they the same?) , it must be in a bit you lot nicked in the 70's boundary changes.

Re guards, well if they were lanc/mancs they will be as much use as a chocolate tea pot.
I also think you find that the searchlights and machine guns are designed to keep people in.

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Originally Posted by steve clawson

hello vince, lets get a few things straight from the beginning, i was running in team 50 ( Rossendale Vets ), my team mate failed to show at the start of our leg ( leg 4 ), i talked to the marshalls on the handover and it was agreed that since my car and warm gear were at the end of the leg i could run on, knowing the team would be disquaified, i thought this was the best way of dealing with the situation, if you bother to check the results you'll see we got a 10 hr penalty for that leg instead of being disquaified,

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Hi Steve, I heard about your team mate doing a no-show and it must be hard for you having to do that, especially as all your stuff was at the other end of the leg. But can I re-straighten the issue I am referring to.
But this was a different issue to the one I refer to. My issue was not with your team, but with team 48, with one runner coming in 12 minutes or so ahead of his (apparantly chucking up en route) partner at the end of leg 4. The check point guys let the next leg 5 team go without having to wait for the 2nd runner catching up.
This was a flagrant breach of the rules as set out on http://www.penninebridlewayrelay.co.uk/rules.htm where it states:
5. Pairs should run together at all times and must be together when entering the changeover.
This was witnessed by a number of people, not just me.
As a firm believer in Fair Play (as well as organising races, countless race results provider) I think the fact that this has just been buried is appalling.

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Originally Posted by Vince

Hi Steve, I heard about your team mate doing a no-show and it must be hard for you having to do that, especially as all your stuff was at the other end of the leg. But can I re-straighten the issue I am referring to.
But this was a different issue to the one I refer to. My issue was not with your team, but with team 48, with one runner coming in 12 minutes or so ahead of his (apparantly chucking up en route) partner at the end of leg 4. The check point guys let the next leg 5 team go without having to wait for the 2nd runner catching up.
This was a flagrant breach of the rules as set out on http://www.penninebridlewayrelay.co.uk/rules.htm where it states:
5. Pairs should run together at all times and must be together when entering the changeover.
This was witnessed by a number of people, not just me.
As a firm believer in Fair Play (as well as organising races, countless race results provider) I think the fact that this has just been buried is appalling.

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looks like i were barking up the wrong tree but as regarding team 48 there not in the results.

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Originally Posted by steve clawson

looks like i were barking up the wrong tree but as regarding team 48 there not in the results.

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Been moved today at some point. I'll stop my rant now! :o

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Originally Posted by Vince

Been moved today at some point. I'll stop my rant now! :o

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they will be moved if already not,

The organisers at the finish were unaware that the outgoing runners were set off before both of the incoming arrived............the results will be amended and team number 48 will be disqualified.
(From Graham Wright event organiser)

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Originally Posted by disco stan

Are we running a book on what mile Pudgy will bonk?
My bets mile 7. :D

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Spot on Disco Smurf. Got ambushed by little fairies hitting my legs with baseball bats, hiding behind a wall at the bottom of the descent. Funny how they looked a bit like witton Park?

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Originally Posted by Pudgy

Spot on Disco Smurf. Got ambushed by little fairies hitting my legs with baseball bats, hiding behind a wall at the bottom of the descent. Funny how they looked a bit like witton Park?

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Are you refering to the cramp fairies...they got me on the final 200meters!

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Originally Posted by Pudgy

Spot on Disco Smurf. Got ambushed by little fairies hitting my legs with baseball bats, hiding behind a wall at the bottom of the descent. Funny how they looked a bit like witton Park?

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I gave you & The Master nothing but support - the pair of you looked perfectly serene as you came past.

Serene? Gracefully gliding past on all fours, I guess. How did you get to attack AF as well. God you can move fast for an oldster! And as for the 3 peaks! Where do you hide that baseball bat?

The results have now been amended on the event website although not on any other sites where they might be seen to show that team number 48 have been disq, they were allowed to set off before both incoming runners arrived which as pointed out by Vince is against the rules. This is probably the fault of the organiser for not fully briefing the c/o marshal not to allow this to happen.

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Originally Posted by Norman Bates

The results have now been amended to show that team number 48 have been disq, they were allowed to set off before both incoming runners arrived which as pointed out by Vince is against the rules.

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I consider this very unsporting. Surely the whole point of a relay is that teams are allowed to set off when they feel like it, and if they wish to stop off for refreshment or to survey the views en route: this should all be factored in.

Isn't the very idea of runners only being allowed to set off when a map or stick or some other touchy-feely stuff has been gone through rather, well, intimate if not risible?

It is applying arcane rules such as are referred to above that has spoilt many relay races in other low key events such as the Olympic Games.

Now that's what I call heavy handed sarcasm. To my mind there was a cock up. It was pointed out. It was sorted. End of.
I would hate Rossendale to have any qualms about the further running of this fantastic event due to any fall out over this very small incident.

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Originally Posted by end

I consider this very unsporting. Surely the whole point of a relay is that teams are allowed to set off when they feel like it, and if they wish to stop off for refreshment or to survey the views en route: this should all be factored in.

Isn't the very idea of runners only being allowed to set off when a map or stick or some other touchy-feely stuff has been gone through rather, well, intimate if not risible?

It is applying arcane rules such as are referred to above that has spoilt many relay races in other low key events such as the Olympic Games.

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Though I agree , I think that it is inevitable that the most freely proclaimed spirits conform and buckle down to what they intially see as restrictive practice, for example the Fell Ponies (the non club) entered a team for this race - unless of course they were practicing double standards.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by fishbulb

Now that's what I call heavy handed sarcasm. To my mind there was a cock up. It was pointed out. It was sorted. End of.
I would hate Rossendale to have any qualms about the further running of this fantastic event due to any fall out over this very small incident.

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I call it levity.

My first relay (Calderdale) was in 1985 and it seems to me that over the last 20 years it is the hilarity of these events that people remember and still talk about, not recollecting the performances of well-oiled machines of soul-less superstars.

Skyrac once came 4th in the Calderdale but a much better story is how a Skyrac leg 5 runner ran across the road at the very start of his leg, fell off the stile and broke his leg.

Brilliant!

Or the year one pair were still in the tea tent as the previous leg runners came powering in.

Or watching the runner who ran his leg after being concussed and had lost his sense of balance so was swaying from side to side.

Or the chap who turned up and asked his partner to go easy because he had run the 50 mile Round Rotherham Race the previous day.

Or...

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Originally Posted by GrahamB

I call it levity.

My first relay (Calderdale) was in 1985 and it seems to me that over the last 20 years it is the hilarity of these events that people remember and still talk about, not recollecting the performances of well-oiled machines of soul-less superstars.

Skyrac once came 4th in the Calderdale but a much better story is how a Skyrac leg 5 runner ran across the road at the very start of his leg, fell off the stile and broke his leg.

Brilliant!

Or the year one pair were still in the tea tent as the previous leg runners came powering in.

Or watching the runner who ran his leg after being concussed and had lost his sense of balance so was swaying from side to side.

Or the chap who turned up and asked his partner to go easy because he had run the 50 mile Round Rotherham Race the previous day.

Or...

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or how this year the Keighley leg 3 teams started to run leg 4 cos the leg 4 team was still in the car changing and how the leg 5 team inc Brett turned up way after the leg 4 team had finished losing Keighley 17 places.

Another favourite was at the Vets relays at Bowland in 2007, We were desperately waiting for one of the team to turn up, on ringing him we found out that he had put the details in his sat nav and ended up in a cul de sac in Preston. My overriding memory is of my colleague (a teacher) saying down the phone (with barely supressed fury), Dave you need to turn off your sat nav, pick up your map and f.....g get here. Luckily he made it just in time whilst I was on the starting line ready for a second leg.

Or getting lost (but who hasn't?)

Or doing a second leg in a mass start (Fell Captain steps into the breach stuff) and asking my younger, faster, partner to take it easy because I had just done 10 miles to watch him respond by setting off at 100 metres pace.

My thanks to the lads in team 48 'cock up'. They were at Fearns before 7 setting up and doing kit checks while some were still in bed . Good honest lads who helped make sure event was a success.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Though I agree , I think that it is inevitable that the most freely proclaimed spirits conform and buckle down to what they intially see as restrictive practice, for example the Fell Ponies (the non club) entered a team for this race - unless of course they were practicing double standards.:rolleyes:

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:confused: What's wrong with the Fell Ponies paying their money and entering a team? Are relay's some sort of elitist races for 'proper' clubs?
We paid, we raced, we enjoyed, simple;)

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

:confused: What's wrong with the Fell Ponies paying their money and entering a team? Are relay's some sort of elitist races for 'proper' clubs?
We paid, we raced, we enjoyed, simple;)

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I have to say, it wouldnt of been the same if the ponies where not there!!!!!!

Having a laugh at the Leg 3/4 change-over with everyone, and talking to George and Mrs C and all-sorts. Watching Merry play with his kids, amex with his footy skills and messed up mind, his wife with her big smile and happy comment, pudgys comment before it all started "You look cold Fowler, welcome to Rozzy Valley"

After id run and was with everyone laughing and chatting away, i wished id been a pony.

Thanks Al :)

(we know you're a Pony at heart ;) )

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

I have to say, it wouldnt of been the same if the ponies where not there!!!!!!

Having a laugh at the Leg 3/4 change-over with everyone, and talking to George and Mrs C and all-sorts. Watching Merry play with his kids, amex with his footy skills and messed up mind, his wife with her big smile and happy comment, pudgys comment before it all started "You look cold Fowler, welcome to Rozzy Valley"

After id run and was with everyone laughing and chatting away, i wished id been a pony.

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Yeah, we're not a bad bunch to hang around with, never a dull moment, and anyone's welcome to have a laugh with us, or run with us, we're a group of friends that share a common interest, a bit like a 'proper' club, and you and emmilou are ponies and Tussockface is a Calder Valley member and whoever you choose to run for on the day is fine. Think Antisocial is just trying to wind someone up, that's ok, he may succeed with some, but not me, he will always have a special place in my heart, being of natural beauty myself, i always feel sorry for the people who have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down:eek:
Hope he still respects me in the morning:D

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

Yeah, we're not a bad bunch to hang around with, never a dull moment, and anyone's welcome to have a laugh with us, or run with us, we're a group of friends that share a common interest, a bit like a 'proper' club, and you and emmilou are ponies and Tussockface is a Calder Valley member and whoever you choose to run for on the day is fine. Think Antisocial is just trying to wind someone up, that's ok, he may succeed with some, but not me, he will always have a special place in my heart, being of natural beauty myself, i always feel sorry for the people who have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down:eek:
Hope he still respects me in the morning:D

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George mentioned getting a Pony tattoo, you not got your name on that list as well?

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

George mentioned getting a Pony tattoo, you not got your name on that list as well?

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Might have one already:p

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Originally Posted by merrylegs

:confused: What's wrong with the Fell Ponies paying their money and entering a team? Are relay's some sort of elitist races for 'proper' clubs?
We paid, we raced, we enjoyed, simple;)

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Absolutely nothing - just thinking back to the founding free spirit principles that's all. When are your committee elections?:rolleyes: