High Peak Marathon

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Originally Posted by Hes

............. ps do I need a head torch? I left mine at running club last night. I've got lots of candles though.;)

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Hes, I'll be happy to lend you a head torch. Failing that, I've got lots of those windproof matches you can have :D

From what i understand Stolly, your bad navigation was partly to blame for the poor outing this year. 2 members of that team have completed before with no problems so dont think it was just their fitness. dont really think its fair to be just blaming them and giving them a slagging.. take a look in the mirror!!!

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Originally Posted by Stolly

Right my team's entry has been sent. I'm not holding my breath mind - every time I've tried to get a team through the draw I've failed utterly, with each of my 3 HPM outings being down to throwing my hat in the ring as a last minute substitute. My experiences have been err... 'mixed' to put it mildly with last year's team being a nightmare. I joined the team about 2 weeks before the off, not knowing any of them, and, well, they were just not fit for purpose :) - one team member was knackered and wanted to change his wet socks by the time we got to Hollins Cross (the first time!!!!!). Needless to say we did not finish....

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Originally Posted by philt1

From what i understand Stolly, your bad navigation was partly to blame for the poor outing this year. 2 members of that team have completed before with no problems so dont think it was just their fitness. dont really think its fair to be just blaming them and giving them a slagging.. take a look in the mirror!!!

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Scrap!! :w00t:

Haha. It reminds me of the time he slagged off Skipton AC for not doing their runs at his pace or where he wanted to go.

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Originally Posted by Stolly

Basically I've come to the conclusion that my running with a club days are over. I used to run with Skipton AC when I lived in Skipton and have occasionally run with them since - in the summer they would all trot off road over some nice hilly routes dotted around Skipton and, although the winter road routes were kind of irksome, it was a really fine club and they were (and still are) a really nice bunch of people. But....

I've popped over to Skipton (25 minutes in the car) last Thursday and again last night and I think I'm wasting my time. My plan was to run with them weekly if I could to try and boost my speed (all my running on my tod and non-racing isn't exactly making me any faster) and last Thursday night I did have a really good blow out; we ran a fast off road course, if not a particularly hilly one, but unfortunately of the half dozen off roaders that night, I think they all wanted to run as a social trot along whereas I blasted off and ran the whole route on my own out in front :rolleyes:. Doh!

Last night I was hoping it might be different and I wasn't disappointed. Of the 25 or so runners who turned up at 7 pm at Skipton swimming pool, all of them but me chose to do an 8 mile road run out to Embsay reservoir and back!!! So I'd driven 14 miles to do a frigging road run!!!!

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Originally Posted by philt1

From what i understand Stolly, your bad navigation was partly to blame for the poor outing this year. 2 members of that team have completed before with no problems so dont think it was just their fitness. dont really think its fair to be just blaming them and giving them a slagging.. take a look in the mirror!!!

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I agree that my navigation wasn't brilliant Phil although we recovered from my major cock up after Lost Lad. Navigation on the HPM is always fun. Apologies I wasn't meaning to slag them off (they were a good bunch and either way we had a laugh) but the two guys who'd completed it before both admitted that they weren't fit enough and the third guy definitely wasn't. We were squarely in last place one third of the way in (before any misnavigation) despite a fairly early start time. The main point I was trying to make is that its a real lottery not getting in with your own team and throwing your hat in the ring as a sub

The guys will be the first to agree they were not in the shape they should have been. you are entitled to your opinion about them and what happend but think that it should be done in a fair mannor. It was in fact my place that you took at the last minute this year. unfortunately i had been working away and had no chance of training for this years event. These things happen when you join a team at short notice. I myself have had to join a team with only a couple of weeks notice and its the risk you take when doing so that they are pretty much guaranteed to be either faster or slower than you. I totally love this event and and am always happy to follow when joining others fo it. I hope you eventually get your own place, i will be doing everthing i can to get a start come March.

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Originally Posted by Stolly

I agree that my navigation wasn't brilliant Phil although we recovered from my major cock up after Lost Lad. Navigation on the HPM is always fun. Apologies I wasn't meaning to slag them off (they were a good bunch and either way we had a laugh) but the two guys who'd completed it before both admitted that they weren't fit enough and the third guy definitely wasn't. We were squarely in last place one third of the way in (before any misnavigation) despite a fairly early start time. The main point I was trying to make is that its a real lottery not getting in with your own team and throwing your hat in the ring as a sub

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Originally Posted by philt1

The guys will be the first to agree they were not in the shape they should have been. you are entitled to your opinion about them and what happend but think that it should be done in a fair mannor. It was in fact my place that you took at the last minute this year. unfortunately i had been working away and had no chance of training for this years event. These things happen when you join a team at short notice. I myself have had to join a team with only a couple of weeks notice and its the risk you take when doing so that they are pretty much guaranteed to be either faster or slower than you. I totally love this event and and am always happy to follow when joining others fo it. I hope you eventually get your own place, i will be doing everthing i can to get a start come March.

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Totally agree with all of that. The team last year did advertise though saying that they'd been in training 30 miles a week and they hoped to complete in 12 to 13 hours and I joined them on that basis. I suspect both of those statements were "slight" exaggerations :). All the same don't get me wrong, it was still fantastic fun. I just feel I'm due a bit of luck this time round in getting my own team in. Best of luck with the draw and hope you get in too.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Foreigner

Haha. It reminds me of the time he slagged off Skipton AC for not doing their runs at his pace or where he wanted to go.

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Haha. Just saw this. Who rattled your cage? :D

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Originally Posted by Stolly

in training 30 miles a week and they hoped to.

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Is that enough for a HPM? I would do more than that myself in training for "The Trigger", and I would not think I would be ready for 40 odd miles through the peak.

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Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry

Is that enough for a HPM? I would do more that that myself in training for "The Trigger", and I would not think I would be ready for 40 odd miles through the peak.

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depends on pace. HPM is much slower so stamina over longer time is more important.

I think if the weather is kind and you have a good base then 11-12 hours is steady if you just keep going.
I'd even go so far to say sub 10 HPM is much easier than say a sub 4 Trigger