Ditched..... there's a vote of confidence for you!
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Ditched..... there's a vote of confidence for you!
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Originally Posted by kcr
well, maybe if you actually did some training instead of lazing around with that glass of wine (n.b., this might well be my last post here...)
[edit] I entirely voluntarily and of my own accord would like to add that she actually has been/is injured
Not sure what the rules are, do subs become "done" after the next race, or as soon as they are posted? In case I can revise them, a change to the subs please
Carl Bell out - Vic Wilks in
Jasmin out - Tom Gibbs in
Adam out and Darren Kay in for my bad weather cup team please Bill.He's due a stormer in a lakes long! Then again........
well that backfired spectacularly...
Somebody hijacked my phone this morning and swapped Adam Perry for Darren Kay !!!!! (Think it must have been LJ). Everybody knows that I wouldn't be daft enough to do something like that. Can I have my original team back? If not, do I get half a point for Darren at least getting half way around ? :mad:
For all of us lol :o but was Andy there/not there? ~ I'm in the dark..Quote:
Originally Posted by kcr
Attachment 7228Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Magners
Actually it was these guys:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...t-8874891.html
Don't think he turned up LJ. He couldn't cope with the pressure of being in your team !! Does this mean we have another go or is it a joint win ?
Well Konrad I suspect you may be in the doghouse for a few days now!!Quote:
Originally Posted by JKP
Well done today Jasmin
I've let other managers change their substitutions if its done before the next race, so that's fine KCR (but brave ;)).Quote:
Originally Posted by kcr
So after possibly the second worst substitution ever (second only to KCR's dropping of Jasmin which must have cost him doubly!!!) it looks like a draw in the cup final...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Magners
We need a replay to settle it. With all the championship races done, lets have the settler at the British Relays next weekend.
Again choose 3 runners from your league team - they will score normal points based on how they do against the other individuals/pairs on their leg. Vets points get awarded only if they're part of a vets team, not a vet running in an open team. No female vet points since there isn't a FV category.
And then choose 5 teams. They will score points in the same way, based on how they finish overall.
How's that sound?
Bill , we may as well not bother with the 3 runners from our league teams as we both have the same teams.lets just go for the 5 guest teams
Fair point - I hadn't spotted that you had exactly the same league teams...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Magners
That's fine with me - just choose 5 guest teams.
So do the male vets teams only score on their overall position, not their position in the vets race?Quote:
Originally Posted by BillJ
We'll treat it like one of the national championship races:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Magners
20 points to the first overall team, down to 1 point for the 20th overall team.
A bonus of 4 points for the first vets team down to 1 point for the 4th vets team.
20 points to the first womens team, down to 1 point for the 20th womans team.
Plus a point for finishing.
So if Calder Valley vets are 3rd overall and 1st vets (just saying...) they'll get 18 points for their overall position plus 4 points as first vets plus a point for finishing = 23 points.
If any other managers want a go at the relays team selection, just for fun to see if you beat either of the finalists, then go for it.
Obviously its only BM vs LJ that counts but see if you can beat both of them anyway...
HBT, Eryri, Dark Peak, Calder Valley, Borrowdale.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillJ
Men's/ open teams there Mr B? (Is that how it works Bill?)Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
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Originally Posted by mr brightside
That's right LJ.Quote:
Originally Posted by LissaJous
Mr B: you'd need to say if that's the men's open team in each case. Or women's team or vets team.
Final results posted. I have also amended the points from Edale (slotting Rhys into the points) and Peris (where Nicky Spinks had originally been in the results as a man).
Top scorer at Langdale was, as a fitting end to the season in which she has been the overall top scorer, Helen Fines.
The top teams at Langdale were Kendal Mint and Calder Valley Totty, both scoring 21 points from a combination of Tim Ellis and Helen.
Congratulations to Mayzis Mountain Muppets, Pigtails Plodders and LissaJous Figures for winning their leagues.
There was drama in the relegation places though... Fell Flukers (in the TSD league) and Ullswater Unattached (in the BS league) both saved themselves from relegation at the final race. The Farmers Wifeys suffered relegation instead.
But there is a tie over the relegation/survival in the TSD league between Dark Peak Special and MTs Allstars. Nothing to separate them, so we'll rule that they both stay up.
And is possibly the most shocking event, Jolivers Army have earnt promotion for the first time since we started doing this!!
The top scorers for 2013 were:
209 Helen Fines
188 Judith Jepson
176 Lloyd Taggart
151 Morgan Donnelly
134 Victoria Wilkinson
124 Rob Jebb
113 Helen Berry
112 Rob Hope
111 Hazel Robinson
109 Astrid Gibbs
And the best value (points per pint) were:
109 Astrid Gibbs
75 Tom Gibbs
68 Sam Watson
48 John Hunt
31 Gill Myers
26 Helen Fines
26 Simon Harding
26 Pete Vale
26 Finlay Wild
25 James Logue
I usually miss a new star or two each time and value them far too low. Astrid will be more than 1 pint next season! As will Tom.
So the leagues next year will comprise:
Timothy-Sheep-Daleside league
Another Team
Bad Magners
BillJ
Compo
Fellgazelle
Green Flash
IanDarkPeak
IanFitz
Inspector Gadget
kcr
Mrs Stagger
Multiterrainer
Superflyguy
Weetabix Power
Pigtails - promoted from BS league
Maloni - promoted from BS league
Hank - promoted from BS league
Longdogs - promoted from BS league
Dew Claw Lassalle - promoted from BS league
LissaJous - promoted from K league
Boddington-Smiths league
Supersaint - relegated from TSD league
Derby Tup - relegated from TSD league
Tallpaul - relegated from TSD league
Noel - relegated from TSD league
TheReverand - relegated from TSD league
Also Ran
Feet in the Cowclaps
LFF
Lost in the Clouds
Mr Brightside
Mrs Weetabix Power
No map no compass
So Wood
Stagger
Tomo80
Lardster - promoted from K league
Will-Moorlands - promoted from K league
Biara - promoted from K league
Wharfedale Old Gal - promoted from K league
johnraho - promoted from K league
hanoverharrier - promoted from K league
Turbo Tom - promoted from K league
Bo Peep - promoted from K league
Kaliber league
Wardy - relegated from BS league
TheHell I Will - relegated from BS league
Carling - relegated from BS league
Johnny Foreigner - relegated from BS league
Fnstein - relegated from BS league
felltrumpet - relegated from BS league
Dominion
Jules
lewisa
Maggie May
Rev Richard
Tim K
ToddO
Tombsy
Woodzy
Buddy
(plus of course any new managers)
Runners points from Langdale Horseshoe (only those scoring more than 1 point)
women
Jasmin Paris = +11 points (finishing=1, posn pts=10) - total points for year = 106
Helen Fines = +12 points (finishing=1, posn pts=9, vet pts=2) - total points for year = 209
Victoria Wilkinson = +9 points (finishing=1, posn pts=8) - total points for year = 134
Jane Reedy = +8 points (finishing=1, posn pts=7) - total points for year = 104
Jane McCarthy = +8 points (finishing=1, posn pts=6, vet pts=1) - total points for year = 8
Catherine Williams = +6 points (finishing=1, posn pts=5) - total points for year = 6
Helen Leigh = +5 points (finishing=1, posn pts=4) - total points for year = 5
Rachel Hill = +4 points (finishing=1, posn pts=3) - total points for year = 40
Claire Prosser = +3 points (finishing=1, posn pts=2) - total points for year = 3
Renee Saxton = +2 points (finishing=1, posn pts=1) - total points for year = 14
men
Ben Abdelnoor = +11 points (finishing=1, posn pts=10) - total points for year = 74
Adam Perry = +10 points (finishing=1, posn pts=9) - total points for year = 45
Tim Ellis = +9 points (finishing=1, posn pts=8) - total points for year = 21
Matthew Roberts = +8 points (finishing=1, posn pts=7) - total points for year = 25
Jonny Malley = +7 points (finishing=1, posn pts=6) - total points for year = 9
Tom Gibbs = +8 points (finishing=1, posn pts=5, vet pts=2) - total points for year = 75
Kenny Richmond = +6 points (finishing=1, posn pts=4, vet pts=1) - total points for year = 7
Andrew Jebb = +4 points (finishing=1, posn pts=3) - total points for year = 9
Tom Brunt = +3 points (finishing=1, posn pts=2) - total points for year = 29
Dave Wilby = +2 points (finishing=1, posn pts=1) - total points for year = 14
Positions after the final race, Langdale Horseshoe
Kaliber League
1st LissaJous Figures (LissaJous) - 446 points (+20), subs made:2
Astrid Gibbs=109, Finlay Wild=77, Helen Fines=188 (+12), Tom Gibbs=62 (+8), ex: Annie Conway=1, Tim Ellis=9
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2nd 2 Men and 2 Little Ladies (Lardster) - 376 points (+20), subs made:2
Astrid Gibbs=109, Helen Fines=80 (+12), Gavin Bland=7, Tom Gibbs=75 (+8), ex: Morgan Donnelly=105
3rd Will's Wanderers (Will-Moorlands) - 275 points (+0), subs made:2
Oli Johnson=18, Karl Gray=41, Finlay Wild=19, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Jim Davies=54, Shaun Godsman=34
4th Kunama Kings (Biara) - 213 points (+0), subs made:2
Olivia Walwyn=18, Carl Bell=20, Astrid Gibbs=109, Sam Watson=54, ex: Tom Addison=11, Robert Little=1
5th Old Gal's Dream Team (Wharfedale Old Gal) - 191 points (+0)
Karl Gray=41, Carl Bell=20, Sam Watson=68, Gill Myers=62
6th Raho's Rascals (johnraho) - 185 points (+3), subs made:2
Karl Gray=0, Carl Bell=20, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Karl Gray=21, Gavin Bland=6
7th= Hanoverharriers (hanoverharrier) - 183 points (+3) - down from 7th
Oli Johnson=67, Sally Newman=55, Gavin Bland=32, Tom Brunt=29 (+3)
7th= Tom's Team (Turbo Tom) - 183 points (+9) - up from 9th, subs made:1
Gavin Bland=7, Tim Ellis=21 (+9), Karl Gray=41, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Ben Mounsey=5
9th Joliver's Army (Bo Peep) - 176 points (+1) - down from 8th
Darren Kay=62, Sally Newman=55, Shaun Godsman=34, James Logue=25 (+1)
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10th Dominion's Demon Descenders (Dominion) - 172 points (+12) - up from 12th, subs made:1
Victoria Wilkinson=92 (+9), Martin Mikkelsen-Barron=46, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Tim Werrett=5
11th Woodsys Wonders (Woodzy) - 169 points (+0) - down from 10th, subs made:2
Carl Bell=20, Astrid Gibbs=79, Gavin Bland=32, Martin Mikkelsen-Barron=35, ex: Paul Cornforth=3
12th Tikkas Trotters (lewisa) - 163 points (+1) - down from 11th
Heather Marshall=53, Jenny Caddick=23 (+1), Oli Johnson=67, Clare Oliffe=20
13th The Wrong Trod (Buddy) - 156 points (+9), subs made:2
Tom Addison=26, Tim Ellis=21 (+9), Gavin Bland=7, Astrid Gibbs=99, ex: Wendy Dodds=1, Gill Myers=2
14th Italian's Stallions (Maggie May) - 143 points (+1), subs made:2
Carl Bell=20, Annie Conway=7 (+1), Astrid Gibbs=99, Todd Oates=16, ex: Wendy Dodds=1
15th The Curates (Rev Richard) - 140 points (+1)
Carl Bell=20, Kim Collison=57, Wendy Dodds=11 (+1), Pete Vale=52
16th Kellys Heroes (Tim K) - 124 points (+1), subs made:2
Carl Bell=20, Gavin Bland=2, Wendy Dodds=11 (+1), Astrid Gibbs=91
17th Big Mac and Thighs (Jules) - 93 points (+4)
Carl Bell=20, Sharon Mcdonald=1, Carol Evans=32, Rachel Hill=40 (+4)
18th Tombsys Trudgers (Tombsy) - 79 points (+0)
Carl Bell=20, Kim Collison=57, Kieran Hodgson=2, Lucy Harris=0
19th Captain Oates and the Toddlers (ToddO) - 44 points (+1)
Carl Bell=20, Annie Conway=8 (+1), Zanthe Wray=0, Todd Oates=16
Positions after the final race, Langdale Horseshoe
Boddington-Smiths league
1st Pigtails Plodders (Pigtails) - 407 points (+20), subs made:2
Helen Fines=80 (+12), Sally Newman=20, Astrid Gibbs=109, Tom Gibbs=75 (+8), ex: Rob Jebb=103, Carl Bell=20
2nd Cambledale (Maloni) - 394 points (+12), subs made:2
Helen Fines=129 (+12), Shaun Godsman=34, Gill Myers=28, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Morgan Donnelly=90, Nicola Davies=4
3rd Kendal Mint (Hank) - 390 points (+21), subs made:2
Helen Fines=188 (+12), Tim Ellis=21 (+9), Astrid Gibbs=109, Sam Watson=54, ex: Morgan Donnelly=17, Ian Nixon=1
4th Calder Valley Totty (Longdogs) - 383 points (+21), subs made:2
Helen Fines=209 (+12), Tim Ellis=21 (+9), Astrid Gibbs=99, Sam Watson=54
5th DCL's Demons (Dew Claw Lassalle) - 341 points (+9), subs made:2
Darren Kay=62, Victoria Wilkinson=134 (+9), Sam Watson=54, Astrid Gibbs=91
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6th Brighty Bunch V4.0 (Mr Brightside) - 322 points (+0), subs made:2
Rob Jebb=124, Carl Bell=1, Sam Watson=47, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Karl Gray=41
7th Clags Down (So Wood) - 305 points (+9), subs made:2
Jane Reedy=38 (+8), Jim Davies=46, Jean Brown=60 (+1), Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Tom Addison=11, Karl Gray=41
8th Also Rans (Also Ran) - 302 points (+19) - up from 9th=, subs made:2
Jasmin Paris=106 (+11), Tom Gibbs=62 (+8), Gavin Bland=32, Astrid Gibbs=99, ex: Gill Myers=2, Wendy Dodds=1
9th Stuck in a Drift (No map no compass) - 292 points (+8) - down from 8th, subs made:2
Carl Bell=20, Jane Reedy=104 (+8), Gavin Bland=32, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Ben Abdelnoor=7, Finlay Wild=20
10th Back Again (Stagger) - 291 points (+8) - down from 9th=, subs made:2
Helen Berry=113, Karl Gray=0, Tom Gibbs=62 (+8), Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Ian Nixon=1, Annie Conway=6
11th Conquering Cumbrians (Lost in the Clouds) - 269 points (+0)
Rob Jebb=124, Carl Bell=20, Todd Oates=16, Astrid Gibbs=109
12th Cheeky Geekies (Mrs Weetabix Power) - 241 points (+1), subs made:2
Astrid Gibbs=72, Carl Bell=20, James Logue=25 (+1), Rob Jebb=67, ex: Jasmin Paris=55, Ian Nixon=2
13th Kinky Foursome (Feet in the Cowclaps) - 202 points (+12) - up from 14th, subs made:2
Astrid Gibbs=31, Martin Mikkelsen-Barron=46, Rachel Hill=40 (+4), Jane Reedy=38 (+8), ex: Karl Gray=41, James Logue=6
14th Fleet Foxes (LFF) - 195 points (+0) - down from 13th, subs made:2
Gavin Bland=32, Kim Collison=51, Carl Bell=20, Astrid Gibbs=91, ex: Martin Mikkelsen-Barron=1
15th Ullswater Unattached (Tomo80) - 194 points (+14) - up from 16th
Jasmin Paris=106 (+11), Kim Collison=57, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Kieran Hodgson=2
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16th The Farmer's Wifeys (Wardy) - 190 points (+1) - down from 15th
Karl Gray=41, Annie Conway=8 (+1), Gavin Bland=32, Astrid Gibbs=109
17th No more Moorhouses (TheHell I Will) - 168 points (+0), subs made:2
Karl Gray=41, Carl Bell=20, Gavin Bland=7, Astrid Gibbs=99, ex: Wendy Dodds=1
18th A Perfect Pint (Carling) - 162 points (+3)
Rob Hope=112, Carl Bell=20, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Helen Winskill=1
19th Los Burros (Johnny Foreigner) - 145 points (+1), subs made:1
Jean Brown=60 (+1), Carl Bell=20, Robert Little=19, Martin Mikkelsen-Barron=46
20th Neckbolters (Fnstein) - 83 points (+10), subs made:2
Carl Bell=20, Tim Ellis=21 (+9), Wendy Dodds=11 (+1), Gavin Bland=7, ex: Jasmin Paris=20, James Logue=4
21st Derby Dynamos (felltrumpet) - 27 points (+0), subs made:1
Carl Bell=20, Katie Walshaw=0, Gavin Bland=7, Tom Adams=0
Positions after the final race, Langdale Horseshoe
Timothy Sheep Daleside league
1st Mayzis Mountain Muppets (Bad Magners) - 476 points (+20), subs made:2
Helen Fines=129 (+12), Finlay Wild=19, Astrid Gibbs=109, Tom Gibbs=75 (+8), ex: Morgan Donnelly=90, Jim Davies=54
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2nd White Lurchers (Mrs Stagger) - 437 points (+20), subs made:2
Helen Fines=209 (+12), Jim Davies=46, Astrid Gibbs=109, Tom Gibbs=62 (+8), ex: Tom Addison=11
3rd Footloose Four (BillJ) - 346 points (+12), subs made:2
Helen Fines=169 (+12), Ben Mounsey=14, Mark Roberts=56, Astrid Gibbs=91, ex: Tim Ellis=10, Annie Conway=6
4th GoGoGadget (Inspector Gadget) - 345 points (+12), subs made:2
Helen Fines=80 (+12), Finlay Wild=77, Gavin Bland=7, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Mark Roberts=6, Helen Berry=66
5th Superflyers (Superflyguy) - 316 points (+0), subs made:2
Gavin Bland=1, Astrid Gibbs=72, Louisa Pickles=38, Judith Jepson=188, ex: Ian Nixon=2, Claire Green=15
6th= FFFF 2013 (Another Team) - 303 points (+9), subs made:2
Victoria Wilkinson=92 (+9), Carl Bell=20, Gavin Bland=32, Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Tom Addison=11, Jo Waites=39
6th= John Wayne Fan Club (Weetabix Power) - 303 points (+9), subs made:2
Carl Bell=5, Gavin Bland=32, Victoria Wilkinson=92 (+9), Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Tim Ellis=10, Jasmin Paris=55
8th Haunted House (Green Flash) - 273 points (+3), subs made:2
Judith Jepson=188, Tom Brunt=26 (+3), Stuart Bond=50, Robert Little=6, ex: Jenny Caddick=1, Stephen Pyke=2
9th Mixed Fortunes (kcr) - 270 points (+20) - up from 12th=, subs made:2
Victoria Wilkinson=9 (+9), Tom Gibbs=8 (+8), Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Astrid Gibbs=109, ex: Carl Bell=20, Jasmin Paris=95
10th Tiggers Brown Vests (IanDarkPeak) - 265 points (+3) - down from 9th, subs made:2
Tom Brunt=3 (+3), Stuart Bond=50, Neil Northrop=11, Clare Oliffe=20, ex: Pippa Wilkie=5, Lloyd Taggart=176
11th Summer Wine Whippets (Compo) - 264 points (+14) - up from 12th=
Jasmin Paris=106 (+11), Carl Bell=20, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Astrid Gibbs=109
12th Fell Flukers (Fellgazelle) - 260 points (+13) - up from 14th, subs made:2
Helen Fines=188 (+12), Gavin Bland=7, Nicola Davies=12, Paul Cornforth=33 (+1), ex: Jasmin Paris=20
13th= Dark Peak Special (IanFitz) - 255 points (+0) - down from 10th
Rhys Findlay-Robinson=75, Oli Johnson=67, Stuart Bond=50, Heather Marshall=63
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13th= MTs 2013 All-Stars (Multiterrainer) - 255 points (+1) - down from 11th, subs made:2
Judith Jepson=188, Simon Booth=29, Gavin Bland=7, James Logue=25 (+1), ex: Ben Mounsey=6
15th Supersaints Allstars (Supersaint) - 218 points (+11) - up from 16th, subs made:2
Jasmin Paris=106 (+11), Karl Gray=41, Laura Gibson=19, Sam Watson=47, ex: Wendy Dodds=3, Rachel Pilling=2
16th Team Tup (Derby Tup) - 217 points (+0) - down from 15th, subs made:1
Jo Waites=39, Gavin Bland=7, Gill Myers=62, Astrid Gibbs=109
17th TP-4 (Tallpaul) - 208 points (+3)
Rob Jebb=124, Stuart Bond=50, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Pippa Wilkie=5
18th Toms Spike Paris (Noel) - 167 points (+14), subs made:1
Jasmin Paris=106 (+11), Carl Bell=5, Tom Brunt=29 (+3), Stephen Pyke=16, ex: Tom Addison=11
19th Apostles (TheReverand) - 43 points (+0)
Ricky Lightfoot=11, Gavin Bland=32, Lizzie Adams=0, Angela Mudge=0
Thanks a lot for all that Bill!
Thanks as usual Bill! "Risky double substitution" tactics paid off after the first race, all 4 of my team in the best-value list ;) - or rather they would be if you didn't keep forgetting Tom Gibbs! (I thought he'd make a race or two more than Sam Watson, it turned out pretty close though!)
Oops good point. I've put Tom on the Best Value list now...Quote:
Originally Posted by LissaJous
HBT Ladies open, Eryri Mens open, Dark Peak Mens open, Calder Valley Ladies open, Borrowdale Vets.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillJ
Phew!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BillJ
Thanks Bill, a wise decision (imho) given we are both much closer to the teams immediately above us than to those immediately below.
Cheers Bill. Another fine season's fun generated by you and a couple of runners.
Tough one to call.. Here goes (for now)
ERYRI Open
Ambleside Ladies
Hunters Ladies
Borrowdale Open
Mercia Open
And mine for now-
Dark Peak men's open
Mercia Men's open
Eryri. Men's open
Ambleside women's
HBT. Women's
I'd agree with the first three. Top vets DP. Ladies too close to callQuote:
Originally Posted by Bad Magners
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Scratch that, new information. Borrowdale out, CVFR V40 team in.
Eryri out for me and C V vets in :)
Drop Borrowdale please Bill...Quote:
HBT Ladies open, Eryri Mens open, Dark Peak Mens open, Calder Valley Ladies open, Borrowdale Vets.
HBT Ladies open, Eryri Mens open, Dark Peak Mens open, Calder Valley Ladies open, Calder Valley Vets.
League & Cup double for BM. Well done.
Not bad Mr B ...you got the mens and ladies open winners but I'd have thought you'd get all 5 by picking teams after the event! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
D'oh, i'm living in my own little world these days! Race dates are a distant memory, it's all MRI scan dates these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Multiterrainer
Well chosen BM!