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[QUOTE=superflyguy;376145]i am a little disillusioned about this race now.QUOTE]
I got that sense a fair few pages back which is why after filling out the form I opted not to post it off. Maybe next year. This year, Gravy Pud for me. I've got house guests that weekend coming over from Gambia, should be an interesting morning out for them...:w00t:
I have absolutely no idea what Claire has / has not done this year but can I categorically clear up the point about permissions from the last 2 years. Many telephone convesations and several emails between Natural England, United Utlilities , Peak Park wardens and me with maps with potential route choices marked on resulted in permissions being granted for the route over Black Hill taking us down to Crowden Little Brook / Sliddens and the options opened on Bleaklow were accepted as spreading any potential impact. The comment from Natural England "In previous years there has been plenty of heavily degraded peatland and the effect of groups of runners on this was minimal, with the expensive restoration underway some locations might show wear and tear ahead of full recovery and I want to avoid this." which is why we slightly modified the route to avoid some newly seeded areas. Good luck with the race this year, 1st time in 20 years I will not be racing but will be on Black Hill as a team member.Quote:
Originally Posted by John4of5
It is sad that the elements of choice have gone. It sort of makes all those recces a bit redundant. However I will still be giving it a portly trott. Anyone got space for the journey back to Marsden?
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I HAVE TRIED TO NOT READ THE DISCUSSIONS ON HERE AND GET INTO THE BUN FIGHT; THE OPTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO CONTACT ME VIA EMAIL OR PHONE.
I admit to being a novice at this and have openly admitted to not knowing the area or understanding the route and have openly asked for information. In the end, the extensive knowledge from 'the man himself' has been lost to age and I am merely trying to keep the race to a family run event. It is a very steep learning curve for me and I greatly appreciate constructive comments, advice and feedback. Firstly this site is NOT an official site for Tanky's so any comments please send to me directly at [email protected].
Ok...to the point.
I have had the following emails and these are direct quotes!!!
'We wouldn’t be able to issue a permit for an unmarked route over Black Hill and Bleaklow due the fragile nature of the recently restored peat and large number of participants in the race. We would however be happy for the race to follow the new Pennine Way from Black Hill to Crowden, cross over Torside dam and then follow the Pennine Way up to Bleaklow head.'
Since this email I have agree with United Utilites that the route can cross the old Peninne way across West End Moss. I'm not getting into the details of past permissions on here but needless to say if we are to do the race then this is the agreement; if you deviate then you could put the whole future of the race at jeopardy. I have agreed with United Utilities that for next year I will have a face to face discussion with them and Natural England regarding the route and the preservation of the area to try to come up with a solution for future years but due to my novice status for this year this is the only agreement we have.
With regards to Wildboar again see the quote below;
'the only point of concern on the route (and has been for a long time) is please advise the runners to avoid skew bridge and the wildboar shoot as this land is excluded from CRoW and therefore not open access to the public.
In the past you have asked the runners to cross at Torside dam and go up the Pennine Way – this has worked for everyone.'
I hope that this answers all the queries regarding the area and the route at this area!!
Please....if there are any queries or critiscms please contact me directly. I can only learn from feedback. I know that things haven't been to plan this year but I have found it very difficult with full time job and 2 young children. Like I say, it will be different next year; I plan to have website solely for the race and to have online applications (my postie doesn't like me!!!) and online payments.
Bear with me....it is a non profit race; all proceeds go to charity; I have taken holiday days to do this!! I am doing it in my fathers name to keep the legend of tanky going!!!
Clair
Clair well said, I think your doing a fantastic job!!
Clair
Thank you for all your hard work both to date & in the build up to Sunday week in putting on the race.
Hi
I have not received the final instructions email with attachment, is there anyone who has that would be able to forward it on to me please. I have received the 2nd email from clair, but not the first. Please pm me if you can
TA :)
Hi...pm me your email address or send email to [email protected] and i'll resend...I have been having issues with emails bouncing back!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jodi211
Clair
In addition as I am having several Non delivery reports from email I will post the information here too...
Final Entry List
No. Name cat. Club
1 Mark Ollerenshaw m 30 Glossopdale
2 Paul Fauset m 36 DPFR
3 Lewis Ashton mv 41 DPFR
4 Mark Vogan m 38 Town and Country Harriers
5 Mike Troup msv 56 Ambleside
6 John Brownell mv 47 FRA
7 Thomas Webb m 32 DPFR
8 Jan Danilo-Garbacki mv 41 DPFR
9 Craig Stansfield mv 42 Rossendale
10 James Lawler m 34 Unattached
11 Paul Bowerbank msv 53 Totley AC
12 John Hewitt mv 48 Glossopdale
13 Brent Lindsay msv 50 Penistone
14 Karen Davison f 38 DPFR
15 Chris Ledger mv 48 DPFR
16 martin Bullock m 38 DPFR
17 Martyn Goodwin mv 51 DPFR
18 Alan Sheldon msv 52 White Peak
19 Amanda Heading fv 43 White Peak
20 Andy Heading mv 46 White Peak
21 Stuart Allsop msv 60 White Peak
22 Greg Rimmer mv 48 DPFR
23 Dave Ward m 35 Unattached
24 Kathryn Parr f 37 Totley AC
25 Helen Gilbert f 30 Totley AC
26 Becky Royall f 33 Totley AC
27 Lucy Savage f 30 Totley AC
28 Gavin Williams mv 49 DPFR
29 Peter Adams msv 51 Rolls Royce Harriers
30 Dave Hogg msv 52 Glossopdale
31 Phill Davies mv 42 Unattached
32 Anthony Capuano mv 45 Unattached
33 John Nunn msv 51 Calder Valley Fell Runners
34 Jim Paxman msv 52 DPFR
35 David McGuinness mv 40 DPFR
36 Gavin Mullholland m 39 Calder Valley Fell Runners
37 Alan Finney mv 42 Glossopdale
38 Andrew McDermott mv 43 Totley AC
39 Jullen Minshull mv 49 Glossopdale
40 Ian Loombe mv 40 Unattached
41 Nick Whittingham msv 56 Penistone
42 Thomas Wild m 24 Macclesfield Harriers
43 Ian Hodge mv 40 Vegan Runners
44 Adam Speed m 37 Pudsey and Bramley
45 Nick Harper mv 42 Totley AC
46 David Egan msv 57 Totley AC
47 Kate Apps (nee Cooper) f 34 CFR
48 Matthew Hulley m 36 DPFR
49 Simon Harrison mv 43 Totley AC
50 Richard Snowden mv 42 Totley AC
51 Tim Rippon mv 46 Totley AC
52 Gus French msv 52 Pennine
53 Jules Barrett m 35 Unattached
54 Dave Soles mv 48 Pennine
55 John Vernon msv 59 DPFR
56 Mick Baldwin msv 59 Denby Dale Travellers
57 Gregory Crowley mv 43 DPFR
58 Anne Beresford fv 42 Penistone
59 Patrick Barry mv 45 Pennine
60 Ashley Norie mv 43 Team Krypton
61 Geoff Nichols msv 55 DPFR
62 Michael Bourne mv 44 DPFR
63 John Doyle mv 45 Pennine
64 Ben Robson mv 47 DPFR
65 Adele Metcalfe fv 42 Glossopdale
66 Ginny Willey f 35 Middleton Harriers
67 Phil Swan m 38 Glossopdale
68 Will Meredith m 37 Goyt Valley Striders
69 Marcus Pinker m 36 FVO
70 John Cox msv 62 Middleton Harriers
71 Tim Whittaker mv 43 Unattached
72 David Daly-Atkinson m 39 Unattached
73 William Baxter m 39 Unattached
74 Marcus Payne mv 44 Unattached
75 Steve Bowker msv 55 Unattached
76 Paul Fleuriot msv 51 Pennine
77 Darran Hawkins mv 45 Buxton AC
78 Daniel Shaw m 31 Unattached
79 Chris Webb m 30 Saddleworth
80 Dave Bebbington mv 48 Denby Dale Travellers
81 Chris Jackson m 24 Glossopdale
82 Laura Gibson f 28 Totley AC
83 Kirsty Bryan-Jones fv 40 DPFR
84 John Boyle mv 41 DPFR
85 Pat Goodall fv 55 Totley AC
86 Clare Griffin f 37 Goyt Valley Striders
87 Ozzy Kershaw msv 50 Todmorden
88 Ray Brown msv 70 Penistone
89 Scott Elbourne m 39 Unattached
90 Carl Betts m 30 Unattached
91 Paul Orton mv 41 Southwell RC
92 Ronnie Turner msv 50 Rossendale
93 Kevin Hoult m 35 Calder Valley Fell Runners
94 Susan Clapham fv 46 Glossopdale
95 Max Howard msv 52 Retford AC
96 Lynda Howard fv 50 Retford AC
97 Jonathon Gledson mv 43 Town & Country Harriers
98 Andrew Oliver m 35 Glossopdale
99 Richard Legge m 31 Unattached
100 Jose Garcia m 32 DPFR
101 Bill Goodwin mv 44 Pennine
102 John Stephenson msv 54 Glossopdale
103 Jane Owen-Pam f 30 Unattached
104 Phill Carpenter mv 40 Tri Team Glos
105 Linda Murgatroyd fv 43 Calder Valley Fell Runners
106 Paul Hunt mv 47 Goyt Valley Striders
107 Willy Kitchen mv 43 DPFR
108 Tim Atkin msv 53 DPFR
109 Peter Kenny mv 44 Unattached
110 Robin Clough mv 40 Barnsley Harriers
111 Colin White msv 66 Totley AC
112 Mark Cudahy mv 45 Buxton AC
113 Howard Chambers mv 46 Saddleworth
114 Jo Armistead f 33 DPFR
115 Huw George m 30 Unattached
116 Heather-Catherine Marshall f 29 Unattached
117 Rick Air m 27 Unattached
118 Stuart Air m 22 Unattached
119 Mark Rawlinson mv 48 West End
120 alan turner msv 51 Glossopdale
121 Sean Milner m 38 grange farm and dunmow
122 nick ward-lowery mv 44 Unattached
123 Spencer Sheldon mv 42 Unattached
124 Will Casson m 33 Glossopdale
125 Ben Reah m 32 Unattached
126 Richard Milner mv 43 Unattached
127 Joanne Cunningham fv 40 Saddleworth
128 David Bevan mv 44 Saddleworth
129 Colin Wilshaw mv 46 Pennine
130 Yiannis Tridimas msv 65 Bowland f.r.
131 Ian Marshall mv 42 Saddleworth
132 Ian Symington m 31 Macclesfield Harriers
133 Stephen Mead m 37 Unattached
134 Matthew Dilley m 33 Unattached
135 Jamie Rennie mv 40 West End
136 Martin Beale mv 43 team runfurther
137 Jim Trueman mv 46 Pennine
138 Tony Heron m 38 DPFR
139 Paul Griffiths msv 51 Penistone
140 Chris Maylor mv 40 Saddleworth
141 Mark Evans m 34 DPFR
142 Kenny Turner msv 50 DPFR
143 Paul Lydon m 39 Totley AC
144 Ian Bliss mv 43 Ipswich Tri Club
145 Alistair macdonald m 39 PBM
146 Carl Bedson mv 41 Glossopdale
147 Glen Borrell m 33 DPFR
148 Sarah Phelan f 39 Penistone
149 Oli Johnson m 31 DPFR
150 Mark Potts m 33 Unattached
151 Trish Justin fv 50 Pennine
152 Jasmin Paris f 27 Carnethy
153 Sophie Coulson f 33 Unattached
154 Tim Tett msv 50 DPFR
155 Phil Smith m 26
156 Daniel Oldham m 37 Glossopdale
157 Graham Butcher msv 54 Rochdale
158 Mark Jenneseon m 35 Totley AC
159 Andrea Stimson f 47 Climbers
160 Richard Andrews mv 42 Unattached
161 Marcus Adams mv 44 Totley AC
162 Caddick jenny f 38 DPFR
163 Dave Sykes m 37 DPFR
164 Ian Winterburn mv 45 DPFR
165 Rhys findlay-Robinson m 24 DPFR
166 Dennis Lucas msv 67 Rochdale
167 Peter Calladine msv 58 Saddleworth
168 Chris Hare mv 50 chapel allerton
169 mark Pearce mv 46 Penistone
170 Alan Jones msv 65 DPFR
171 Aidan Linskill m 30 Totley AC
172 Tim Allard mv 42
173 Norman Eames msv 62 Rochdale
174 Andrew Snell m 31 Ilkley Harriers
175 Keith Holmes msv 56 DPFR
176 Alan Brentall msv 61 Pennine
177 Ian Rawson mv 43 Unattached
178 Lee Rawson mv 40
179 Dave Pickering mv 44 Retford AC
180 Steve Woodward mv 41 Retford AC
181 Helen Howard f 39 Retford AC
182 Dave Allen msv 51 DPFR
183 Geoffrey Dimelow msv 56 Penistone
184 Michael Rawle m 39 Unattached
185 Ian Oates mv 44 Glossopdale
186 Chris Beavan mv 43 Unattached
187 James Riley m 39 Todmorden
188 James Pine m 31 Unattached
189 Chris Ashton m 34 Unattached
190 Jude Stansfield fv 41 Glossopdale
191 Simon Cox mv 48 Unattached
192 Jamie Collier mv 47 Unattached
193 Alexander McVey m 21 Glossopdale
194 Glen Irving m 35 DPFR
195 Duncan Irving m 38 Pennine
196 Andrew Harris m 37 NIDD valley road
197 Rob Whitehouse mv 46 Unattached
198 Lee Wood m 29 Middleton Harriers
199 Simon Harding m 26 Macclesfield Harriers
200 Andrew Hamilton mv 48 Unattached
201 Tim Snape mv 44 Unattached
202 Matt Dumenil m 31 london heathside
203 Bernice Nixon fv 56 Penistone
204 Andy Hadfield mv 45 Unattached
205 Sarah Halstead fv 43 Penistone
206 Paul Skuse m 34 Unattached
207 Roy Bradley msv 64 Saddleworth
208 Manhar Patel mv 44 Calder Valley Fell Runners
209 Bill Johnson mv 45 Calder Valley Fell Runners
210 Alan Knox msv 57 Penistone
211 Mick Cochrane msv 64 DPFR
212 Lyndon Bilton m 36 wakefield
213 Andy Baron m 28 Unattached
214 Ed Nicholas m 27 hunters bog trotters
215 Neil Northrop m 28 DPFR
216 Mike Burton m 34 Unattached
217 David Rennie m 38 West End
Final Details
Emergency Numbers : Clair Stokes: 07504987844
: Kate Gladwin-Stokes: 07981329228
: Mountain Rescue 999 or 192
START
Registration: Marsden Sports Hall, Fall Lane, Marsden, Huddersfield, HD7 6DB
Open from 07.00am
Closes STRICTLY at 08.40am
(NO CARS TO BE LEFT IN CAR PARK AFTER (9AM)
- Please leave plenty of time for registration and warming up!!
- Please bring safety pins for your race numbers
- Kit check will be done during Registration so please bring all your kit to Registration.
THERE WILL BE NO SUBSTITUTIONS ON THE DAY!!
- Runners will be asked to make there way to the Start at 08.50am and the whistle will blow at 09.00am!
ROUTE
Check Points: Crowden: SK072 992 (South of Road) Cut Off Time 12.30 hrs
Snake: SK108 914 Cut Off Time 15.00 hrs
When approaching a check point please ensure your number is visible to the marshalls.
Retiring: IMPORTANT!!!
When retiring at any point during the race YOU MUST ENSURE YOUR RACE NUMBER IS HANDED IN TO A CHECK POINT MARSHALL OR THE FINISH TENT!! WITHOUT THIS YOU WILL NOT BE REGISTERED AS RETIRED AND YOU WILL BE PRESUMED MISSING!!!!
Route Exceptions:
- As in previous years we do not have permission to cross Black Hill down Little Crowden Brook please use alternative route along Tooleyshaw Moss and Westend Moss.
- Please avoid skew bridge and the wildboar shoot as this land is excluded from CRoW and therefore not open access to the public.
- As the Snake Check point has moved to Lady Clough the route is now to pass from Doctors Gate, across the road and use the access style at SK 101 929 to enter into the top of Lady Clough and there will be a river crossing at the bottom of Ashop Clough – do not use the road!
FINISH
- The Finish tent is set in the front garden of The Jolly Rambler.
(Please can we ask for you or your support drivers not to park in the pub car park)
- At the finish you must state your race number and please wait for your name to be called to ensure we have the right number!!
- Please can we politely ask if you can move through the finish tent as quick as possible to avoid congestion.
Refreshments: Complimentary Tea, Soup and Sandwiches are available in the Village Hall.
Prize Giving: Will take place at 2.30pm in the Village Hall.
RESULTS
Will be available on the day to view only and will be either sent via email or posted on Fell Runners Forum approximately a week after.