Fellsman

Well done Twinkletoes:thumbup:

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Originally Posted by Dog Breath

We were only walking and he should have been with us but wasn't, and we had to wait 30+ minutes in the freezing conditions before he materialised.

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Something similar happened to us a couple of years ago - half the group carried on but 2 of us waited at the checkpoint for him to catch up. The fault was ours though, not his - the point of grouping is to stick together at the speed of the slowest, and if they'd applied the rules strictly, we'd have been disqualified.

Felltrack here
Not sure if it's fully updated yet but gives you an idea of times and retirements

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Originally Posted by Fly

Felltrack here
Not sure if it's fully updated yet but gives you an idea of times and retirements

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Link doesn't work "A parameter (OWNER) for this event is not correctly set up."

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Originally Posted by Fly

Felltrack here
Not sure if it's fully updated yet but gives you an idea of times and retirements

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Link doesn't work for me; something about permission? - Or maybe it's just a Chrome problem

well i had a nap on the setee when i got home i buggerd. hats off and a big thank you to the check point staff and hq staff so freindly and supporting sat on top of those hills stationary must have been every bit as cold as us on hills. met nicky spinks at breaky ,what a nice lady . i agree that wind was very cold and strong. the ground froze after mid nightish and even got to throw a couple of snow balls on gt whernside from the old snow fields. went well upto the grouping then had slow down alittle with the group but got someone who knew most of route. we got over fleetmoss and middle tongue in the light and didnt need torches until after hell gap but then the wheels fell off for one of us. still was happy to get round and ended with 18:20something so probably crossed paths along the line hes. didnt get cold personally as i had enough kit but did see a lot of cold people in thin jackets. it was only the second time ive ever had to run in my waterproof bottoms . hope everyone had a good day out and got down safe. im still deciding wether to class it as enjoyable at the moment :thumbup:

Felltrack won't work for me either

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Originally Posted by old un

well i had a nap on the setee when i got home i buggerd. hats off and a big thank you to the check point staff and hq staff so freindly and supporting sat on top of those hills stationary must have been every bit as cold as us on hills. met nicky spinks at breaky ,what a nice lady . i agree that wind was very cold and strong. the ground froze after mid nightish and even got to throw a couple of snow balls on gt whernside from the old snow fields. went well upto the grouping then had slow down alittle with the group but got someone who knew most of route. we got over fleetmoss and middle tongue in the light and didnt need torches until after hell gap but then the wheels fell off for one of us. still was happy to get round and ended with 18:20something so probably crossed paths along the line hes. didnt get cold personally as i had enough kit but did see a lot of cold people in thin jackets. it was only the second time ive ever had to run in my waterproof bottoms . hope everyone had a good day out and got down safe. im still deciding wether to class it as enjoyable at the moment :thumbup:

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Well done Old Un, good time, hope to pick your brain on recces next year

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Originally Posted by protodoc

Felltrack won't work for me either

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Just tried the link seems to work ok on for me. Win XP and firefox.
Probably worth just googling it
think I found it on Roadkills delicious feed

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Originally Posted by Dog Breath

Of the 18 Fellsmans I've now completed, that has to be by far the coldest. I've had some pretty rough ones over the years, but I don't think I have ever been so cold. I couldn't warm up at all. Even a determined walk up Great Whernside did not generate any heat. I can understand why people got hypothermia, and was probably not far off myself. I know grouping is for safety reasons, but everyone still has to take personal responsibilty and in conditions such as those experienced you get into survival mode. One guy with us had a Petzl Tikka for his torch, which may be OK round the camp site, but up there when you NEED to see where you were going, it was useless. Consequently, we had a lot of standing around in the freezing conditions waiting for him. There weren't too many groups behind as we got through Park Rash before it was abondonned. But the worst point was that 900 metres before Capplestone CP, we waited for him at the stile, and then continued to the CP. We were only walking and he should have been with us but wasn't, and we had to wait 30+ minutes in the freezing conditions before he materialised. We were all getting varying degrees of shudders while we were waiting. The CP staff just told him to get in their tent and sent us on our way. I eventually finished in 19:43 and was my slowest time for many years. I've just about thawed out, but blimey that was a cold one.

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Sorry mate but that's a bit of a shocker; you've only got yourself to blame for your 30+min wait. You're right that he should have been better equipped but you lots should have managed it better; kept him in the middle of a close group, nominated a sweeper and rotated the lead.

People are far too cavalier about the grouping system; perhaps the organisers need to lay down the law a bit more about just how to behave in a group. This guy (or any other runner) could easily have tripped and brained himself; you would never have found him and he'd probably be dead right now.

My group consisted of myself (novice) and three guys with over 30 fellsmans between them. As a result they knew the route well and we made good progress. Even so, I still had to restrain the lead runner from stretching the group out too much. It's easy to see runners with head torches on but if they trip and break their torch, suddenly they are an invisible casualty in a featureless landscape.