All ready on sale in Accelerate, as are about 4 others bare foot brands, actually I was in the shop last week and they must have had 60+ fell,trail and road shoes + the barefoot stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MorganW
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All ready on sale in Accelerate, as are about 4 others bare foot brands, actually I was in the shop last week and they must have had 60+ fell,trail and road shoes + the barefoot stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MorganW
Evoskins on sale here for £36 plus free p&p http://www.ratrace.com/1539/products...8-evoskin.aspx
bfluc, thanks for the input. Interesting looking at your feet, probably explains why I have always had wide feet and problems with finding all fell shoes too narrow (I quickly burst the sides out). As a kid I never wore shoes all holidays (guess I was a barefoot urchin!), I spent the whole time outside and barefoot - seemed natural. Now I am approaching my second childhood and retiring in a few weeks .....time for another go!
I do bits and bobs barefoot, and I enjoy the liberating feel of it (it's even got me minimalising in other areas,) but it has to be said that bare feet do not grip well on some surfaces, such as moorland grassy slopes, and it is VERY easy to hurt your toes and stuff. I reckon the real point of running barefoot, for me, is that it shows me what running is supposed to 'feel' like, in terms of correct foot strike. Once I worked out how it's supposed to feel for my body, I can make sure I run that way in shoes.
But, like someone else here said, you don't ever want to be in thick soled, built up heel jobbies. That's why I fancy some more minimal shoes.
I agree with you as long as shoes give you enough proprioception. This explains why I agree with Ken Bob who says it's better to learn "full monty" prior to go with minimalist shoes. I understand though that when you have races and time you're used to do more or less easily it might be hard to forget all that for 6 months or even a full year.Quote:
Originally Posted by plodding bear
Don't forget that running barefoot is fun, impossible not to do without a big grin on your face. Although it is important to remember that when you pass by other people, you've got to revert to that pained runner expression, else they may think of you as some kind of free thinking anarchist. That wouldn't do.
Anyone interested can see all the minimal shoes that I've tried here... http://nearlyshoeless.wordpress.com/the-shoes/
I know. I got a tut for wearing X talons a few years back in the Vosges... Hardly extreme mountains really. The two walkers were oldish chaps with boots laced up above their ankles, should have been me tutting really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra
Wondered how everyone is getting on "barefoot"? I spent the first 21/2 months walking barefoot, very, very gradually building up distance and rougher ground ( I haven't run at all in that time), certainly a different technique to wearing shoes and I'm very pleased I've done it slowly as I could feel different stresses and strains on muscles. I always carried a pair of sandals with me, and popped them on whenever needed - rough ground, sore feet etc. Love walking in sandals as well, and when I put trainers on for the first time last week, I had 2 blisters in a 3 mile walk. Sod that!!
Had a bit of first jog today, walk/jog for an hour all barefoot, no injuries and feet good, though sore from the hard ground and stony tracks. Certainly feet are hardening well now, a good few layers of thick skin protecting against thistles, but more importantly they are slowly adapting to the bruising from stones etc. This is what has taken the time for my feet to adapt. I really enjoyed the feeling of running over the fileds, sort of feels a bit like flying :).
Obviously there are big limitations on what I can achieve barefoot, I could never really race or cover some of the rogh ground remotely fast without shoes (I think). Bu tI see myself doing a lot of training and walking without shoes.
I don't intend purchasing any "barefoot shoes", not at those prices and it isn't really barefoot is it?
Good work molehill :thumbup:
Looks like a sensible way of transitioning. Be carefull in order to avoid BRE (Barefoot Running Ephoria). Avoid going too fast too early. If you keep transtioning gradually and slowly I can tell you you'll get rewarded. You'll endup being even a better runner even when shod. Also as you'll have stronger and healthier feet you'll avoid injuries more easily when fell running or hiking in the mountains.
Have fun running! :D
Be the Smart Follower and let me spend money on shoes and see what might endup being the best minimalist road and trail shoe. :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by molehill
Though I must say I live in Crazy Canuck Land (Quebec province) so I'm not sure my typical Trail Race is close to conditions you have in Fell Races.
You can see what I am doing and with which shoes on my Daily Mile Profile
http://www.dailymile.com/people/bfluc
I bought my first pair of Inov8's about 3 years ago now. Think they're pretty brill - latest pair is the F-lite's 190. These are fabulous (I save them for Sunday best!) but pricey so I train in Roclite's at the mo, given the clarty nature of most of my runs...i.e worrying about weight of shoes seems silly when you end up carrying twice their weight in mud!
Must admit to snapping up the NB Minimus trail as soon as they were available over here - and in terms of fit and feel they are better than anything I;ve ever worn. Seriously utterly wonderful. Sadly only any use in Cumbria in dry summers (yep, guess they'll last then..) cos the 'trail' sole isn't up to anything but nice hardpacked surfaces. Wish NB would bring out a proper fell shoe on the same lines...
Tried the INOV8 Baregrip, but was suprised and dissappointed by the narrow toe-box which seemed to run counter to a lot of minimalist design?
Having traded down over the last few years now towards ever more simple shoes I'm a convert to minimal running shoes. Get to do a bit of barefoot stuff on my local hill and it's great fun, but isn't my aim - even the Taraumara invented soles! For me a sole is to protect my feet from dangerous stuff like stones and thorns and that's it. Everything else is done by the incredible design of the human bean, from feet up... ;o)
would that be a runner bean??? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by daisy
In our case, definitely ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
bum! bum! as the old fox used to say.
A contribution to the debate from one of the US's finest, Geoof Roes, in the Ultra context:
http://akrunning.blogspot.com/2011/1...-is-it_29.html
I've just been for a run, nothing special just a trot up a farm track and through a pine plantation. I decided to do the plantation bit in bare feet just to see how it went. The soft, pine needle covered bits were great, the grassy bits were great, but the stony bits bloody hurt, especially if they were going 'downhill'.
I'm just getting back to running so I'm not clocking up big distances yet, and I normally run in Wave Harriers. I have been trying to run as a midfoot striker for a while now, and I'm quite pleased with it so far. However, I haven't particularly noticed any calf pain so I#m wondering if I'm doing it right? I was under the impression that if you run in bare feet you would automatically do it right, as your body compensated. Or maybe I'm not running for long enough? (about 20 minutes in bare feet, today)
Anyway, it feels good so I'll keep on with it! Got some of those vivobarefoot neo trails put away for crimbo..!
20minutes sounds quite a while without shoes p b, especially if you're on the comeback trail. Be careful mate!
Hi DT, definitely on the comeback trail - hopefully get back to headtorchers before too long! I thought 20 mins was a while, but I didn't have any pain at the time (apart from standing on small stones) and my legs feel ok now, a few hours later. Here's hoping it's the way forward, for me at least...
It'd be great to see you on a Wednesday night soon. We've had some real good runs the last few weeks and I'm enjoying my running more than I have for months
I'm a bit conscious of my lack of fitness just at the mo, after ripping me hamstring a while back! Never fear though, it's on the mend and I working at it slowly. Got some big runs to do next year, all being well!
iRunFar review of some further advances from the New Balance stable:
http://www.irunfar.com/2011/12/new-b...ro-review.html
Yes please, want both pairs asap! The road zero will make a cracking gym shoe. My only complaint with my current trail minimus is they now whiff rather bad and the wife wants me to chuck em out. My fault for wearing without socks, but they're so comfy! Definitely my favourite running shoe that i've owned, so got big expectations for the zero range.
And while we're at it you can add the 110 to the want list.
Do we know if these are going to be available in the UK?
Yes in January, had accelerate confirm this with NB yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhb0510
Excellent!
Another helpful piece from iRunFar which adds to the debate on "what drop?"
http://www.irunfar.com/2012/02/heel-...ing-shoes.html
Plenty of comments follow the article.
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Originally Posted by Twister
Ross Tucker of the Sports Scientist blog was along on that expedition. His account, including video diaries, is below. I might add that the Science of Sport blog is excellent and Ross' book "The Runner's Body" is required reading for anyone in our sport. Superb and very easy to read. It's bloody cheap from Amazon too.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/02/barefoot-kilimanjaro-mission.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPdb7...layer_embedded
Not sure if this has been posted before but it made me smile :closed:
I think the main problem with barefooting from a fell running angle is that so far (apart from inov8, and they just seem to fall to bits as you run!) no-one has come up with a shoe with enough grip.
The vivobarefoots aren't bad, don't have the resources to try any others but from what I've heard, they're all very much 'trail' shoes.
Once my vivo's wear down, mebbe I'll see if I can get them resoled over at LSR in Burnley?
The new Vibram Spyridons are great for all but the steepest more slippery descents.
Latest from the States:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/new...running,30740/
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Just been reading through the old posts in this thread and my first thought to this advert was that it must be a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inov-8 Insider
That looks just the kind of shoe we've been crying our for: anatomical last, not over-cushioned, no irritating seams in the construction etc. Wonder if the laces are available in other colors (sic)? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by MorganW
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Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
They must be the coolest looking shoes I have ever seen:thumbup: can you wear them for high jump???
Not sure, you may not come backQuote:
Originally Posted by Daletownrunner
No posts for three years? Are we all back in shoes then? Mind most of the posts on here were from the Insider guy iirc
Chap says he is gonna have ago at a BG barefoot ...Wish him well with his charity but don't think he is doing fell running a service as it will only lead to more Charity runners using an already overused route...Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Next thing you know signs will be going up & trods will be paved ...its only a matter of time :mad:
Escalators... It's the future :)Quote:
Originally Posted by B.Bill.
I think most Fell Runners are more interested in "what flotation device" threads than what shoes not to wear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup