Lakeland 100 - 2013

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

My reflections

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Hi DT, Not sure I agree with you reflections on the food on offer. I thought the range of food at regular intervals was great and exactly as set out in the notes/menu provided in advance. I know that the soup (except the Thai carrot at Dockray!), pasta and sarnies were what kept me going. This was my first go at this and I was surprised how much I actually enjoyed most of it, last few miles were not the most pleasant with knee pain. Great event and an amazing feeling when you are welcomed back in to the hall by everyone. Good luck for next year, you do need luck on this.

I agree about the food. For the LL50 I thought it was spot on and was quite impressed by the range of sweet and savoury on offer. The fresh fruit smoothies and pieces of fruit plus the nachos/doritos etc were really welcome and the soup was lovely. I didn't bother with the pasta because I can't stomach much when running but it was good to know it was on offer if I'd have been struggling. From a veggie point of view, I thought we were well catered for.

I didn't need to resort to a single gel but I guess everyone is different and the LL100 is a different beast to the 50!!

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Originally Posted by Fairweather

Hi DT, Not sure I agree with you reflections on the food on offer. I thought the range of food at regular intervals was great and exactly as set out in the notes/menu provided in advance. I know that the soup (except the Thai carrot at Dockray!), pasta and sarnies were what kept me going. This was my first go at this and I was surprised how much I actually enjoyed most of it, last few miles were not the most pleasant with knee pain. Great event and an amazing feeling when you are welcomed back in to the hall by everyone. Good luck for next year, you do need luck on this.

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Originally Posted by Baggins

That was an interesting experience, didn't get round had to stop at Ambleside not least due to the pain in my feet! Set off a what felt a very easy pace and felt ok at Dalemain but after that started to feel like I was running on hot coals. As it got hotter gear that had been ok on long runs started to rub through till I bled, groin, waist, back and even my arm where it touched my bottle pouch as I ran. Towards the end couldn't stand the bottle in my pouch as it started hurting my ribs. Should have stopped at Kentmere as I could only walk over from Mardale but forced myself on to Ambleside that took nearly 4 hours!! realised I didn't want to finish the race like this and called it a day. Strangely I'm trying to figure out what I can alter to improve my chances next time :D

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I was the same Baggins but with the added problem of running in brand spanking new hoka's! Going into the event I was planning to run in my bog standard Inov8 mudclaw 265's but I knew that, what with all the hard ground, my feet would innevitably take a pasting in the second half. On an impulse I tried on a pair of hoka's at the endurance shop in the registration area and they seemed to fit perfectly so I went for them instead.

Unfortunately they didn't quite fit perfectly, with the fitting being a bit too wide, and my toes started to get pushed against the inside front of the shoes fairly early doors and the pain gradually getting worse mile by mile. Come the descent down to Haweswater, my toes were absolute agony. The bottoms of my feet stung too and all in all I was shuffling along, barely moving at all at times. From the top of the hill after Fusedale to Marldale CP took me absolutely ages - it was like crossing the sahara walking on broken glass :). I threw in the towel at Mardale. A case of out of the pan with the mudclaws and into the fire with the hoka's for me then!

Mind you, long term I think the hoka's will be the solution. I think I need to wear two pairs of socks or perhaps add an inner sole and they should be okay. When eventually my toes of doom have repaired themselves I'll give the hoka's another run out

I also think getting my feet wet soon after Seathwaite may have had a hand in my feet stinging so much later on.

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Originally Posted by Stolly

I was the same Baggins but with the added problem of running in brand spanking new hoka's! Going into the event I was planning to run in my bog standard Inov8 mudclaw 265's but I knew that, what with all the hard ground, my feet would innevitably take a pasting in the second half. On an impulse I tried on a pair of hoka's at the endurance shop in the registration area and they seemed to fit perfectly so I went for them instead.

Unfortunately they didn't quite fit perfectly, with the fitting being a bit too wide, and my toes started to get pushed against the inside front of the shoes fairly early doors and the pain gradually getting worse mile by mile. Come the descent down to Haweswater, my toes were absolute agony. The bottoms of my feet stung too and all in all I was shuffling along, barely moving at all at times. From the top of the hill after Fusedale to Marldale CP took me absolutely ages - it was like crossing the sahara walking on broken glass :). I threw in the towel at Mardale. A case of out of the pan with the mudclaws and into the fire with the hoka's for me then!

Mind you, long term I think the hoka's will be the solution. I think I need to wear two pairs of socks or perhaps add an inner sole and they should be okay. When eventually my toes of doom have repaired themselves I'll give the hoka's another run out

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Made the same mistake last year, brand new Hoka's, got a 9, should have got 9 and a half, hotspots going up Walna scar road. Feet were fooked at Dalemain but changed into another pair, different model, id broken in. Damage limitation seemed to work, feet were a mess at the end but leg muscles felt great. Since got a 9 and a half and jobs reet now.
Live and learn Stolly, you'll know next time. Having said that it's a foot wrecking route with the terrain and wetness, if you get round with no blisters your a very lucky chap or chappess :)

On the foot shoe/foot front, I first of all smother my feet in SUDOCREM then put on a ninjini base sock with a mono skin over the top of that , and in the case of the Lakeland 100 I wore a £34 pair of NB 290 road shoes (I used road shoes based on my knowledge of the paths and the dryness/hardness underfoot) and I have to say it was a combination that worked very very well not a blister, hot spot, battered toe`s no sore calfs or quads however once the Heavens opened the lack of grip on wet rock and grass from the road shoes had me wishing that I had carried my mimilist NB V2 to change into should the conditions change which of course they did but then it is always easy to be wise in retrospect I guess.

In a nutshell Sudocrem. Ninjini topped with Mono Skin socks and appropiate footwear for the prevailing conditions has long worked for me, (steer clear of vaseline,) oh yes Spread sudocrem over all parts of the body where you are likely to chaff messy but it works (for me at least).

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Originally Posted by JohnK

On the foot shoe/foot front, I first of all smother my feet in SUDOCREM then put on a ninjini base sock with a mono skin over the top of that , and in the case of the Lakeland 100 I wore a £34 pair of NB 290 road shoes (I used road shoes based on my knowledge of the paths and the dryness/hardness underfoot) and I have to say it was a combination that worked very very well not a blister, hot spot, battered toe`s no sore calfs or quads however once the Heavens opened the lack of grip on wet rock and grass from the road shoes had me wishing that I had carried my mimilist NB V2 to change into should the conditions change which of course they did but then it is always easy to be wise in retrospect I guess.

In a nutshell Sudocrem. Ninjini topped with Mono Skin socks and appropiate footwear for the prevailing conditions has long worked for me, (steer clear of vaseline,) oh yes Spread sudocrem over all parts of the body where you are likely to chaff messy but it works (for me at least).

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Hi John, thanks for posting this re Sudocrem etc. Very thought provoking. Great to catch up properly on Saturday afternoon :thumbup:

I've used, and mentioned Lanacane for areas that chafe. I still thing its good stuff, but for some reason it didn't work this time. Possibly it got washed/rubbed off!? I think I was fine up to Ambleside when the sky's opened and I got soaked!!

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Originally Posted by Adnan Khan

Maybe I am trying to fit in with you lot :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by JohnK

In a nutshell Sudocrem. Ninjini topped with Mono Skin socks and appropiate footwear for the prevailing conditions has long worked for me, (steer clear of vaseline,) oh yes Spread sudocrem over all parts of the body where you are likely to chaff messy but it works (for me at least).

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Out of interest, why not Vaseline? I have used that on feet and all chaffing areas and have never had an issue. It needs replacing as it gets rubbed and washed off, so I'm interested in your preference.

I think the only things against Vaseline, is that ( as you say ) it rubs off, but it also attracts dust and grit. Although very expensive I think Bodylide is a better alternative.http://www.bodyglide.com/