Yep! Not opened the second bottle yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett
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Yep! Not opened the second bottle yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett
Classic, you know full well that the second bottle will be opened a week on Friday...
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Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Nah. Birthday this weekend. 58 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by brett
My son kindly offered me the opportunity to accompany him on a ride this morning but I couldn't
Stopping for take photos he did 42 miles,5500 feet including some 20% stuff in 3hrs 30.
I am only having daughters next time.
What if you get beaten by your daugther?:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
I'm 47 and my daugther is 11. I bet for another 15-20 yr I'll remain the best runner and cyclist in the family (and I'm not even good, ouch :( ), but sooner or later she will catch up and overtake...
Now, if it was a 25yr son beating me, that would not feel as bad...
I remember hiking in the alps with my Dad. At first I was lacking stamina and as a good dad he used to wait for me. But years later the gamed turned around and he was begging for me to wait. Sweet memories.
Wise words.
I haven't posted on the Today's Sally thread for a while, but my daughter has been taking it pretty seriously and is up to 1 minute 28 - that's longer than I could do when I first started this a few months ago. It's certainly an incentive for me to keep training.
My dad once said he'd give me £20 if I took a game off him at squash - which I eventually did. Similarly, there's an offer of a meal out if my son beats me in any fell race. I'm not being sexist here - my daughter has made it very clear she's not interested in fell races.
What's this Today Sally? And 1min 28sec?:confused::confused:
Here's a link. https://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/show...ighlight=sally
Enjoy :)
My eldest daughter (27) is not far off beating some of my PBs. She has never really shown much interest in sport until recently but is enjoying her running and is already into the low 40s for 10km and knocked out a HM training run in 1.45. Has now joined a running club too so won't be long before I'm relegated to second. My younger daughter has always been sporty but mostly football, some athletics and gym. Still not interested in running any more than 5km thankfully as I'd be well down the rankings otherwise. Neither show any interest in fell running though. Still scarred from childhood holidays in the Lakes most likely!
I'm trying to interest my nephew in running, and hopefully fellrunning of course...
I'd much prefer it if he went down the route of joining an athletics club at junior level, learning a little bit about working hard, and getting a lot of enjoyment out of it... rather than following my route of playing football, then sunday football, and ultimately not making the most of any little talent i had through my late teens and 20's.
But ultimately its up to him... and he's already changed what he wants to be when he's grown up, from Fireman to Premier League footballer.
Although he listens to my tales from the hills in wonder... and if i've had a bad race he asks.... "did you trip over a mountain...?"
Two words: Pateley Bridge. It lies in a river ravine and when it rains a lot the River Nidd floods, a lot. Every road out involves a hill, some are long and steep (Greenhow 3990 m, gain 282m),Nought Bank Road (2700m, 207m) which are in Simon Warren's book but others with chevrons are not (Old Church Road and Peat Lane). Oh and the mainroad to Harrogate is steep as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
So a few hilly loops round Pateley will sort out anyone's climbing credentials.
My son lives in Otley (on the R Wharfe) and to go North to Pateley involves climbing over Blubberhouses Moor ,losing all the height going down to a river valley (Washburn) and then climbing up over more moors to reach Pateley.
It's why Yorkshire has an ICU recognised Tour (of Yorkshire) and no other county has. :)
I remember this from one of my and Mrs Noel's tandem adventures. Thankfully we went down it having stopped for an excellent cake at the stump cross caverns cafe over the tops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Well if you went by way of Grassington to Stump Cross you would also remember the long 16% climb up from Dibble's Bridge**. The "S" bend over the bridge has killed 3 descending cyclists over the years and 33 people in a coach which went over the parapet is the worst ever traffic accident in GB.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
The last cyclist to die (in late 2020) was on an "E" bike,one of the brakes failed,he hit the parapet at 47 mph and landed on a barn roof. There are now belatedly two new huge signs prior to the descent warning cyclists to check their brakes.
** but with two of you pedalling 16% is presumably just a family frolic.:D
I’m rubbish at searching for segments on Strava, so it’s probably me, but that Dibble bridge hill only seems to a) have one segment on it (shown as 10.8% by the looks of things Graham) and b) it’s only for the downhill!!!! It must be the fell runner in me but who the hell cares about downhill times?
There are 4 Strava segments on the hill up from Dibble Bridge east towards Stumps Cross, named as:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
B6265 climb
B6265 steep section
Farcarl Climb
New Rd Climb
They all have over 6,000 attempts.
Go get'em
Thanks. A top 4,000 place is ripe for the taking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
(I think it’s using Strava on my mobile that’s the problem - segment searching seems a bit more basic on the mobile app)
We have a name for the people that live in Greenhow (and Queensbury above Bradford)Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
....the fog people :)
Well maybe I don't know much about fell running but isn't, say, Snowdon "won" on the downhill?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellbeast
A 16% climb isn't at all steep when you can find 25% climbs + hairpins + gravel.But what is a bit different about the Dibble Bridge descent is that if you don't navigate the narrow S bend at the bridge with, of course, vehicles coming in the opposite direction and which you can't see until the last few seconds so you don't know how much of the road they are taking up, you might die.
And three cyclists have.
And North Yorkshire Highways has just spent a lot of money erecting two huge signs specifically aimed at cyclists (not bikers or coaches) because they clearly think it could happen again.
Yeah I drive that road a lot (well used to pre-covid anyway) and I know the squiggle turn at the bottom too. It can be a bit unnerving in a car to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
I do remember seeing some signs that day. Scary business. Thankfully on the tandem I have an in-built safety system that shouts at me if we're going over about 35mph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
You're right, with two pedalling we should fly up those hills. Just looking back at a segment called Dibble's Bridge to Stump Cross Caverns. It took us 21 minutes. Dividing the time by two, as we were on a tandem, we were only 2 and a half minutes off the fastest time of about 7 and a half minutes!
So if you were really trying :)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Never having been along that road, I have had a look on Google streetview. Compared to some examples of the steep-hill-with-a-sharp-bend-at-the-bottom phenomenon that I have ridden, it looks fairly innocuous; which I suppose may be part of the problem. With that long, fairly straight descent from the east, Noel would be among a minority of cyclists if he was going at less than 40mph. And the road is quite wide . . . until you get to that bridge at the bottom.
Apparently the bridge here: https://www.google.com/search?q=53.1...hrome&ie=UTF-8
is tricky as it's
a)at the bottom of a long hill and
b)the exit bend from the bridge is deceptively sharper than the entry bend.
We know the people who live at the house just on the corner. They periodically have to pull cyclists with broken collar bones out of the field only to be bemused that the riders are more concerned by the state of the bikes post-impact with the dry stone wall.
Well that made me laugh. Somewhat hysterically.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
When I did the White Rose Classic a few years ago there was also a large pot hole just in front of the bridge - to add to the fun. The organisers had stationed a man there waving a big red flag. This was 2018 I think but I presume it has been repaired since then as I didn't notice it in the car when I passed that way last September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
I think there are also barriers on the bridge these days to stop cyclists plunging 30 feet over the edge. I've done that descent a number of times and never felt that troubled. But saying that. I'm a bit of a scaredy-cat on steepish downhills generally so don't gather enough speed for it to be an issue.
I once watched le Tour high up on the Tourmalet (it was snowing!) and then I descended back to St Luz when the road was still closed to traffic allowing hundreds of cyclists to use the full width of the road on the sweeping bends to go berserk. I must not have got my aerotuck quite right because riders were looking at me as they passed and I am sure they were thinking "why is he going so slow?":)Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
I did a road ride today on the gravel bike, 52k and 1000m, same route as 10 days ago but quicker.
Strava gave me 18 achievements for this, I was quite happy with the single achievement of a better overall speed.
I know that one well Noel and as you say tricky. Sometimes can be made trickier by a liberal sprinkling of gravel after heavy rain, which nearly caused my downfall on one of my earliest visits.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
And don't start me on the road surface on that little rise under the trees by Manor Farm which ruins what little momentum one has left after slowing for the bridge!
Fitted new front pads on disc brake this morning, as they were binding I decided to ride to the top and come back down to wear the brakes in. 17k and 400m, surprising how much harder it is riding uphill with the brakes on!
It didn't work.
But what good training, eh? When you need to pedal going downhill that's when you're training properly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by molehill
I don't go that way, it bores me to death and there's usually a headwind going over Katty White's Allotment. I go straight to The Craven Arms for some 'courage' and take the New Road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
It's sad how terrible my rides have got now the boozers are shut.
Rode with my son today. Alas not to Pateley Bridge** but 21 local miles: Cow & Calf, Old Pool Bank, 1860 feet. My resting pulse of less than 50bpm peaked at 157 - but I was trying to keep up with him. Very windy but "hundreds" of cyclists out.
** The Visit Harrogate Tourist site advertises "Nidderdale's Killer Climbs":
Trapping Hill, or the Cote de Lofthouse.
Now famous after its starring role on Stage 2 of the 2017 Tour de Yorkshire Trapping Hill leaves the village of Lofthouse far behind as it climbs the valley wall of Upper Nidderdale. Not dropping below 10% until the end this climb is relentless from the outset but kicks up at several points to escalate the challenge.
Naught Bank (or ‘Two Stoops’)
Naught Bank might not be so bad if it were not for the 25% left hand hairpin in its opening stretch. Never letting you see too much of the climb at once this road explores the hillside as it climbs before finding a nook to sneak up onto the moors. The Two Stoops name comes from the popular folly that can be seen on its summit.
Peat Lane
Starting near the foot of Naught Bank, Peat Lane is a climb of two halves, with most of the climbing coming in the first half mile and the added challenge of a poor road surface. The second half is a climbing time trial of about a mile in length emerging finally by the popular Coldstones Cut.
Old Church Lane
This climb begins at the top of a hill. But bear with us. While the main road up Pateley Bridge’s award winning high street turns to follow a gentle route down the valley, our climb carries on up possibly the hardest of our Killer Climbs. Passing the old church of St Mary’s that gives the climb its name, the tight, winding, and unrelenting gradients take the most direct route up the north side of Nidderdale and simply do not stop until you reach the top.
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One might think if you are cyclist you may as well stay in Pateley Bridge where these climbs actually are - but perhaps that was a pedal stroke too far for the Harrogate Tourist Office!
And the Pie shop in Pateley Bridge is probably the best in Yorkshire - so the world.
Old Pool Bank is a stiff climb. Many running sessions up there with my Otley running club mates. Bugger to race up, unless it's against Mr Cardinale!
This morning Wheeze came on his bike......let me rephrase that 🤔.
Wheeze and friend stopped by on their bikes for a cup of coffee - b****r wrong sort of bikes, forget that.
Bought an ebike has he? Him and Toffer?Quote:
Originally Posted by molehill
Even worse a vroom vroom motorbike 😱.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Toffer would not be seen with an ebike (I think) - he has a shed full of Italian bikes that would make Graham swoon. Think he has one at any rate!
Other places that you had the benefit of not seeing from the Mease and Tame valleys were Derby, Nottingham and Leicester, which were all visible from Beacon Hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
At last, sunshine and dry a glorious spring day. Unfortunately the ride was inglorious, suffered from the start and legs refused to work - even after a mars bar!
Cut the route short by missing a big forestry section and happy to arrive home after 44k and 1070m ascent.
It is very up and down here, in fact there is no flat peddling on any route - unless I head down the valley to main A roads ☹. I do frequently wish for some easy riding just for the sake of it as I get no younger! Most of my routes including the back roads tend to average out around 1000m per 50k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
With a warm forecast I decided to display my gorgeous Mercatone Uno-Bianchi-Girmi (see left) top for the first time this year and pay homage to Marco on the Nick O' Pendle which Simon Warren awards 8/10 (rather generously in my view) in Cycling Climbs of North-West England. Apparently I was almost alone in this ambition because I only saw one other rider in the area but dozens of parked cars of course.
So out via Silsden-Cowling-Colne and then up to Sabden. With an OS map in my sack I would normally disdain the
navigational abilities of my phone but on this occasion it was valuable by warning me that Sabden Road was closed and finding the fastest alternative route ("fast" here being a relative term). Then home via the Clitheroe-Skipton Road.
So 56 miles, 3900 feet, max pulse 154, max speed 42 mph, one litre of apple juice, 2 gels and one sandwich consumed and, can that really be the start of a sun tan in March?