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Originally Posted by stevefoster
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Ah the old avatars are the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
Timeless gems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Mine are ok - felt a bit clumpy at first but fine now, they do skid a bit on wet wood and limestone, but when I had sticky rubber inovs I did not notice much difference to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
Anyway stop trying to keep me up, I feel like I am Cerys Matthews having Tom Jones singing its cold outside at me to keep me up for nefarious purposes
Go to bed, you ain't as pretty as Cerys and i can't sing like Tom, as for nefarious, i'll just put me readers on and find me dictionary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Wicked:wink:
Sound like my daughter:rolleyes:
It was the wording of it rather than the response itself that annoyed me, since it had a mention of all the different shoes that contain sticky rubber and no mention of whether this is known to be any better than normal rubber or any mention of durability or similar. The OP didn't say they wanted to know of a better shoe for wet rock but was merely making an observation. Inov8 insider took this as a perfect opportunity to plug his brand which is an advert in my books. If he'd have said for example "re: wet rock - inov8 now use sticky rubber on some of our soles because we think it's better on wet rock, but it does wear down a bit quicker if that's any good to you?" it wouldn't have annoyed me as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Insider
Splitting hairs, but they are my hairs to split so to speak.
I think I might need reading glasses. If I get some can I celebrate? :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
Suppose it could be worse Steve, we could be looking our hair too! :D
Yes as was said at the start of the thread they are quite good. I have a couple fo pairs of Inov8's and would rather use the Walsh than those. In my opinion the fit seems a whole lot better than the Inov8 and a darn sight comfier. Also unlike Inov8s I can wear them staright from the box! But seriously they are quite good, they fulfill every need I have for them in the West Pennines. Good grippy sole, blah blahblah, did I mention how much I like them, I'll probably go back to the PB for a pure fell shoe, watch out for size 9 mudclaws for sale!Quote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
The Spirit Lite/peak jobbies look a bit more cushioned than yer average Walsh shoe, is that actually the case? (fingers crossed...)
They are, yet still manage to be pretty light too.
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Originally Posted by plodding bear
A lot more cushioned than both Walsh PB and Mudclaws But doest have the aggressive grip for steep grass/heather etc. It is a trail shoe not a fell shoe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme78
Disagree fine in grass and heather just not in very muddy conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Might be a good bet for the Fellsman, then. rocky paths, grass, bog...
I don't think they're that bad, too be honest if you want a good all around alternative to the PB or mudroc that can cope with trails and roads this is your shoe. I would consider using them on most stuff, lakes, peak dale etc. I wouldn't race in them thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I think they would be an excellent shoe for that and for a lot of long distance stuff too.Quote:
Originally Posted by plodding bear
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Originally Posted by Antisocial
I think Graeme grasped my comments alittle better than Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme78
Yes they are ok on Heather/grass and moorland but if were racing down a steep bank of the above or muddy terrain as Paul says then I'd want a more agressive sole.
The pace of the Fellsman is a little more sedentry for most so yes I would say this is a good choice for races/challenges such as the Fellsman
I may well get these as my next dry weather or trail shoe, I currently use harriers for off road when it's not slippy enough for pb's but these are starting to look like a good bet.
I have just got a mail order pair of these. (spirit lite)
the fit around the heel and midfoot is really nice. What should I expect in the toebox area? there seems to be a great deal of space between the end of my toes and the front of the shoe, is this normal or should I return them and get a half size down?
they are deathly on wet rock, be warned - and not great in mud, IMO
good shoe for any terrain in dry conditions though
used them on saturday for Rombalds Stride. no problems with the fit, really comforatable.
found them usable on the flags on top of Ilkely Moor, but wouldn't want to be slowing down or changing direction as they were slidey. had to take care crossing the 'babbling' streams.
looking forward to some drier weather now!
Does anyone know the weight (approx.)? I take it they're pretty light or lite!
The Walsh website gives weights for the fell trainers, but not for the Spirit Peak and Lite.
I'm sure I've seen weights somewhere, I think it might have been in the fellrunner or on a website.
Spirit Lite 300g
Spirit Peak 309g
Spirit React 310g
Weights from Pete Bland's website.
I often think they look quite heavy and clumpy, then put them on and they honsetly do feel very light and responsive.
I've used these a few times now, for run/walk efforts, and find them fine although they do seem to fill up with more mud than usual - or maybe that's just the weather lately! No problems with grip on anything but wet rock and let's be honest, not much sticks to that! I have found though, that on occasion they seem to rub the spot where my bug toe joins the rest of my foot; strangely, not all the time though!
Thanks a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme78
I've used the Inov-8 Roclite 305s till now, but think I may well make the switch.
And you can get the Spirit Lites for under £60 whereas Inov-8s seems to be around £80.
or for £45Quote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/W...-racing-shoes/
Recommend them, much better that 305's and even have the edge on flyrocs.
Blimey, that is really cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Thanks for that.
Have really got on well with the 305s (now discontinued I think), but am keen to try some Walshes, especially at that sort of price.
that's exactly what Mrs SFG says too. she describes them as boats!Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme78
the ones from PB are Brite orange rather than the SS blue ones.
i bought some of the spirit light shoes, primarily for walking the dog. they're absolutly brilliant walking shoes. tried running in them once too. won't be doing that again. they grip fine, but they're to rigid for me. they bend fine at the ball of the foot, but they don't twist very well, so on any uneven ground they're horrible to run in.
Interesting, since they're trail running shoes. Has anyone else found them so bad to run in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Mungus
i did 1 local fell race in and found them comfortale enough but not a serious shoe, a bit heavy and clumpy but fine for trails, a bit more protection for the toes too, i bought them for walking and rocky hilly runsQuote:
Originally Posted by L.F.F.
Maybe good for something like the Lakeland 50 - mainly hard-packed trails, some grass, but not that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I think they are spot on for what they are sold for. Trails. they offer a decent amount of cushioning and protection alongside a reasonable amount of grip. I purchased mine with long distance running in mind, when my feet will thank me for the extra padding, slightly stiffer sole, roomy and protected toe box.
As a fell shoe they are never going to match up to something designed for that purpose.
Ideal for walk/run type events, I hope!
Seemed fine to me on Rombalds Stride but then I'm in no way a racer, just a 'get-round' plodder.
ive got a pair of these for my training runs light but with plenty of cushioning very good on the grass n light mud, heavy mud n wet limestone like wearing rollerskates, n
crap when wet as the innersoles bunch up under the toes on decents but think this happens with a few brands, uppers dry quick thow good on the tarmac too.
Got myself a pair of these after reading the positive comments on here.
I've been out for over 2 months with ITB and Achiles problems and after physio, rest and some orthotics i'm slowly returning to running. I've managed to get a few miles in these now over different terrain so thought i'd share.
They were quick to free up, the first run was painful but they've been fine since and are pretty comfy, even with my wide feet. Grip on general trail is excellent, i feel much more confident now. Went for a jaunt over Aran Fawddwy yesterday, the rain closed in something terrible on the way down but grip was again overall superb. Wet rock was trecherous but the grip on wet grass and light mud seemed to be great.
One thing i noticed is that they really do dry out quickly. After being dunked in peat bog up to my ankles it wasn't long before they were nice and dry again.
Build quality seems solid but i guess only time will tell that!
Just bought my second pair of these in 15 months. I would have had to bought about 9 pairs of mudclaws in the sa,e time though to be fair mostly only 2 pairs of flyrocs.
Had a year in a pair of Spirit Peaks (a bit heavier than the Spirit Lite). They're really comfortable and have to be the warmest fell/trail shoe I've ever had so I never get cold feet in them. Pity the grip on snow and wet rock isn't better or they could be good all-round winter shoes rather than good for easier terrain.
Better buy a few more pairs as Ive heard from a very good source that they won't be available anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Antisocial
Really? Having had these for a few months now, I was planning to replace like for like next time. I've been massively impressed with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fell & Mnt
What was the reason for discontinuing them and when would this likely happen?
Thanks,
I'd like to know too. I've had three pairs of these and they're ideal for long distance trails; really comfy and more than grippy enough and nice and light. I thought they were better than Flyrocs (which I've also used and liked) and nearly up there with the late lamented Walsh Raids (my favourite trail shoe to date).So please say they're not going to be discontinued; or if they are it's so that the Raid can make a well deserved comeback.Cheers - RaymondQuote:
Originally Posted by Freypal
Help! I'm trying to find a pair of Spirit Peak/lites somewhere but they do seem to have been discontinued as nowhere has a size 10. If they aren't available anymore, what do people use instead? I don't want to go down the inov8 route really, I want reasonably priced shoes that last a while.
Are those MoreMiles Cheviots up to the job, haven't heard much about them on the other thread for a while.
I'm looking for a shoe for longish, fell/traily runs, maybe with even the odd road section...
...maybe I'll just have to get Harriers again?