Mud? Where, the middle path?
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Mud? Where, the middle path?
Interestingly the FRA hasn't yet corrected the record from the trans athlete a few years back.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
The Parkrun issue has kicked up a stink with the like of Mara Yamauchi, even Martina Navratilova wading in accusing them of a cop out.
Ahh...Right. All set. Just sat down with me cuppa and a whole packet of McVitie's digestives...
Oh crumbs :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mossdog
prepare to be offended :rolleyes:
I decided to remind myself how painful a 5km run can be (compared to longer runs where the pace is slower). So I went to Beacon Hill parkrun today; only my second outing at this venue (and my first experience of parkrunning in clag), and I was pleased with a time only 28 seconds slower than last September. The crowding at the start didn't prevent me adopting my usual tactic of going off too fast and getting into oxygen debt, but after being passed by a large number of runners (including a bloke being pulled along at a tremendous speed by a whippet on a canicross harness), I settled into a good rhythm. I passed several runners on the second climb, at the back of the hill, but about five passed me in the last 200 metres, including a JW11-14 girl and a VW45-49 woman; Mr B would never have allowed that! I finished first VM65-69, but it is annoying that age category records have been expunged; I would like to know if last September's effort still has me as all-time 4th fastest VM65-69 on this course.
Anthony, this is what happens when organisations don't have the balls to tell the woke brigade to shove off.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
Don't have the balls! But isn't actually (literally) having them what the fracas is all about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
Extremely interesting interview with Debbie Hayton by Brendan O'Neil on these issues here.
https://audioboom.com/posts/8458357-...exual-apostate
Debbie Hayton (ex 'dad' with 3 kids who has had the full chop), author of Transsexual Apostate: My Journey Back to Reality, talks to Brendan O’Neill about why women should have their own spaces and the real reason so many men are identifying as women.
Petition to reinstate the age category records and other statistics: https://www.change.org/p/reinstate-s...l-participants
Signed it a bit backQuote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
I did one of the local parkruns this morning, a new one for me as it hasn't been going very long.
Fancied this one as its predominantly a cross-country course and i wouldn't feel so focused on hitting a time/pb, and with a much smaller field (about 60 or 70, compared to 6-700 at Cov) i'd be less likely to get drawn into a race.
All well and good... but there were only two of us capable of going under 20mins and we soon pulled away.... however neither of us had the foggiest where we were going.
Some frantic shouting and arm-waving from various marshalls and we made it round the first lap in one piece. This probably played into my hands as the the guy who eventually won is more than capable of putting 60-90secs into me over 5km, but because of the mishaps we went through halfway dead level.
Now he knew where he was going, he soon stretched away, and eventually finished in around 18:30, with me trailing in at 19:11
Seemed to pace it well... i looked at my watch after perhaps 1km and i was bang on 19min pace, so not much of a drop-off, even with the first lap orienteering. My calves however are still feeling the effects of last weekend and it was a pretty sorry trot back home afterwards... i'm glad i've decided against any uphill sessions this week.
9 miles for the morning.
Club outing to Middleton Woods, outside Leeds this morning. One of my friends was first woman and I was first over 60 year old which is pleasing at 66 yrs old. 19/106 also pleasing. Lovely course in a dodgy part of Leeds
First derestricted parkrun at Bramley on Saturday, got beaten by a cocker spaniel.
21.39 is not too shabby Mr B, when you've been out with injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
On the other hand, at Watermead park parkrun near Leicester, last week's first female was a VW60-64, Elisa Whittlestone, in 21:11. At the same parkrun this week, Sonia Samuels turned up and went round in 16:44, which was 25 seconds ahead of the first male runner. Sonia also holds the female record at Beacon Hill, in 17:41. Watermead Park is flat and on mostly tarmac paths; Beacon Hill isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo
Thorp Perrow is a very nice parkrun just off the A1 by Bedales in N Yorkshire. I did it for the first time today and was impressed. Very little tarmac and lots of grass and mud. Best thing was it was only one lap. 1st VM65 too.
The arboretum is worth a visit too!
I'm planning on having a crack at Penrith parkrun tomorrow. It's a 2.1 scratch score so I'm looking at a time of around 20m, though I can't work out why it's that high. There doesn't appear to be any hills as you'd expect from sports fields, but there are a few twists and turns. If there's a view of the River Eamont that will be nice.
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Originally Posted by mr brightside
MrB when i was living in the Lakes i used to do my flat sessions there.... a mile rep was very close to a full lap of the main playing fields area.
It is indeed very flat... but there are a number of sharp turns, and although its absolutely nothing to worry a fellrunner, some of the path can be a little muddy/gravelly in places.
Ran 20.14, but it felt like 19.45. there are quite a few sharp bends and I think they may have stolen a march on me.
7th overall, so nicely top ten.
Just had a look at the results for Penrith.... getting close to 20
I ran 19.27 at Roberts park back in January. I had that down as slower than Penrith. A guy there was telling me about Keswick parkrun, its an out and back along the old railway tracks to threlkeld, slightly downhill on the return so you're ideally going for a -ve split run.
A return visit to Woodhouse moor after 7 years. Caught the bus there using my bus pass (one of the benefits of being an old fart). They had changed the direction and route of the run since last time. Great way to celebrate pr's 20th anniversary along with760+ others. A steady 27 min run (My pr PB is a scorching 21.30 at Woodhouse Moor) as I then ran footpaths home to Otley on a convoluted route that gave me 22 miles of Marathon Eryri training. My last long run before the event - just regular hill running now. Gorgeous day!
I'm back up stainmore way so looking at Keswick parkrun tomorrow if I get up for it. There are no big names in the results, so obviously the ginger stepchild of the Keswick events, the Keswick lot obviously go to whinlatter. Just an out and back with one turn, so looking for a sub 20 again. I'm expecting parking to be a joke.
Hope it went well MrB
I'll be doing Keswick Parkrun in December, but at the back end of a week of long hill days... and i'll do something like 8 x 1 minute hills on Latrigg straight after the Parkrun.
It has a couple of hills in it that won't have been there when the trains were running, probably cost me 30s. 19.49 for the session and a much stronger field this week including Sam Stead, who was comfortably under 17m. My calves died on me with about 2k to go as well.
I remember some geezer with a double buggy full of kids at the start literally on the start line. I overtook him thinking he would slow a bit, but he passed me a minute or so later and buggered off. I remember looking ahead later on and couldn't see anything of him, he'd gone, until he passed me on his way back sitting in about sixth.
Nobody turns up for this until about 8.35. i was there for 8 and spent ages wandering about looking for everyone.
On the rare occasions when I do parkrun, I don't usually turn up until about 8.50. Long enough to take off any unwanted clothing and change from cycling shoes to running shoes, and jog to the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
I'm a longer warmup type of guy.
Like to start warming up at least 45mins before a race (perhaps 30mins before a parkrun, if i haven't ran there already). A couple of very easy miles, then some drills.... change into spikes if its XC.... then some strides.
Not a fan of a rushed or inadequate warmup.
My behaviour at races is very much in contrast to parkrun. Particularly when I am travelling a long way, I tend to arrive early because I have allowed extra time in case of travel hold-ups. Twice this year I have been the first competitor to arrive at a race venue; which has the advantage that there is no queue for the toilets!
I would typically start warming up about 20 minutes before the start of the race; just some easy running, followed by some strides.
I used to think parkruns were rubbish, but am now a complete covert - they are great. So, I've done over 140 and visited nearly 50 different ones. Always friendly, inclusive and free - I've run with Olympians pulling 15 minutes and joe public taking an hour or more. It's a great way to visit different places and a way to fit speed training into a holiday. Helping out at them is a great way to be altruistic. I even got involved in completing the parkrun A - Z and only have to go to Holland to get a Z to complete it. Some of them are like fast road races and some like Lyme Park or Chevin Forest are nearly Fell runs. Always pleasing to be first in your age group as I was at Isabel Trail, Stafford yesterday. Mr B likes Bramley - but it's one of me least favorites. Variety is the spice of life. I still prefer a muddy romp on the fells in shit weather, But...
Maybe someone should start a parkrun at Zouch, about 4 miles north of Loughborough. You could have a lovely route along the bank of the river Soar. However, they would have to ban people from arriving by car; the car park at the Rose & Crown wouldn't accommodate the hordes coming to do their Z parkrun (or even the numbers expected at any parkrun), and there isn't any other car parking nearer than Hathern, about a mile away, where there is a good bus service.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo
Pleasing result at bramley on saturday, 20.47, not expected with so little leg speed training of late.
Well done Mr B.
Proud Dad moment this Saturday when my son was first at Dolgellau parkrun.
And it was in Wales. Should make you even prouder;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo
Many of the parkruns around Otley were cancelled due the the understandably risk averse nature of the run directors. I was supposed to be running the course check at Chevin Forest this morning, but by last night it had been cancelled.
So I went to Roundhay which has a winter course all on grass - Cross Country parkrun! Happy to run fast enough to come first in my age group VM65 - 26.16, 122/515.
Good training, and the Mudclaws were useful.
My local parkrun is 2/3rds on concrete, 1/3rd on trail.... the trail/grass section is hilly and muddy enough that unless in dry conditions i would wear fell shoes.
On New Year's Day i went down clad in my Mudtalons, due to the torrential rain, only to find it had been cancelled.... still ran the course, but was now free to simply do the concrete section for 5km..... meaning i did a 5km tempo, followed by an 800mtr rep, all on the concrete, in fell shoes...
I don't think it should be something that someone with conditioned legs can't handle once in a while, but i still wouldn't want to do it very often.
I notice now they have started posting cancellations on the website, when previously they only used FB groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattPo