I agree. Low key, balanced, sane.
A pleasure to read, actually.
Especially as my Fellrunner hasn't arrived yet. :mad:
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I agree. Low key, balanced, sane.
A pleasure to read, actually.
Especially as my Fellrunner hasn't arrived yet. :mad:
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It looks like we have some friends in the media giving a good balance to some of the recent hysteria.
So that's what the new Helm Hill vest looks like. I bet Timo is kicking himself now! He could have had one of them.
I'm going to have a go at this one. I've never done a short, sharp, serious fell race before. My only short race experience extends to Roaches Fell Race and Staffordshire Moorlands Christmas Cracker (I usually restrict myself to ultras where I can go nice and slow ;)). Can any veterans out there advise me on what to expect / how to prepare?
Thanks in advance.
Nick.
Get there early. Parking is difficult and you might be parked a long way from the race start.
I recall it as a series of quite sharp short hills but good, fast, runnable terrain.
I think after a run down tarmac it goes up a narrow, stony lane so don't dawdle at the back.
Mr Brentnall told me it was one of the best races in the Calendar and since I won the V60 in 2008 would I disagree..?
It's a classic Lakeland mini horseshoe with a fast downhill tarmac start followed by shortish climbs over 3 peaks with some good descending over rough grassy / rocky ground. The highest of the 3 peaks is 375m so you'll be finished in well inder the hour.
Starts and finishes at the village hall where a welcome dish of pie & peas is waiting for you at the finish. Then wash it down with a nice pint in the Blacksmiths Arms next door.:)
Get there early as it's usually well attended and car parking is limited to narrrow lanes if the farmers field is wet. Try to car share if poss.
Best of luck !
Thanks guys. Any navigational issues - do I need to take a copy of the map supplied plus a compass, or is it just a case of follow the people in front?
I'm not sure about finishing in well under the hour, mapper. I'll have to wait and see how it turns out ;)
I'm envious - lovely bit of the lakes that, great pub, pie & peas, if the train wasn't £80 I'd be up there.
The parking can be a problem but its a cracking race
Should be quite a few from from Pennine up there
Er, its a fell race, what do you think...?Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
It potentially is a nightmare for navigating... by all means follow the folk in front; chances are they will not a have a clue where they are, no idea where they are going and most likely already lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
And that is just getting from your car to the start.
http://www.cool-smiley.com/smiley/endormi/c015.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by GrahamB
Oh, what a shame Graham! I always thought you might have had a chance with Miss July :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss July
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Originally Posted by Miss July
In her dreams. Tell you more tonight: if you can keep up with me on that rough, rocky, boggy, steep Ilkley Moor.
Still think you have a chance. I reckon she's playing hard to get ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GrahamB
Mr A, you're the second person to say that what i thought was a straight forward run is actually tough, i'm trying to find reasons why but i may need help. Looking at the os map it seems straight forward by virtue of cp's 1-2 and 3-4 being aligned N to S almost perfectly, 2-3 would be made slightly easier by the presence of the field wall and sheepfold at the northernmost point to guide you round. The map shows a trod up to the pike summit just after the road crossing, does this exist? Is it hard to go in a straight line, the area looks to be peppered with small crags? The benefit of yours or anyones knowledge here would be appreciated as i like to be organised. Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by theNoor
I think you will find that this race is so popular that getting lost is unlikely to be an issue, but there are fairly distinct trods over nearly all the route. In fact there are so many the problem is knowing which to run along!
First time I did this (2005), the marshals for CP2 were (possibly) in the wrong place. (Not helped by the fact that the Black Combe website says that it should be at SD224930, whereas the map shows it at SD224929). The lead runners went off looking for the marshals, but others went to the correct place then dropped off the ridge.
I was later overtaken by Lloyd, Phil, Tim Austin on the climb to Stickle Pike.
So, yes, I think a map and a compass might be a good idea.
Sorry, I forgot to mention, it was low cloud and heavy rain in 2005, so visibility was pretty poor to say the least.
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Originally Posted by GeoffB
You mean you couldnt hold those plodders off:rolleyes:
In a way you've actually pointed out how easy it is to go wrong. There are so many little trods that you can get on one, think you're doing well and before you know it your lost or headed in the wrong direction. I was overtaken by Rob Jebb one year, as I headed up to checkpoint 3. He had come down on the road some way to the east of the road crossing.Quote:
Originally Posted by COUGAR
I dare say that was the same year that the Dark Peak guys came past me. I'd only just started running then, so I probably didn't even know who Rob Jebb was!!Quote:
Originally Posted by theNoor
They must have put something in the beer on the Friday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Whens Dunnerdale. I am a bit out of touch.
next sat'day, looking forward to this one..
SAT.NOV 14. DUNNERDALE (R). AS. 12.00 noon. 5m/1800' from the Blacksmiths Arms, Broughton Mills, Cumbria (GR 223905 on O.S. 96). £5 (includes food). Teams(3) free. ER/LK/NS. Over 16. Records: 35.51 K.Anderson 1991; f. 43.09 J.Kenyon 1993. No dogs on course. Parking restricted. Please park where instructed. No safety pins. Details: Andrew Gittins, Lowfield, Church Street, Broughton-in-Furness, LA20 6ER. Tel: 01229 715104. Email: [email protected] Website: bcrunners.org.uk
Found a map on the website. ;)
http://www.bcrunners.org.uk/dunnerdalemap.htm
Looks a quality route!
Is anyone coming up via the M6?
AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Al Fowler
Car with room for one more meeting nr Junction 31. Call on 07785 382809 if you still need a lift.
Good luck everyone for this race. Looks like it will be wet n wild up there tomorrow. Just right! :)
Had I better bring me vest then?
Vest? We only wear manikinis round these parts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE82m...eature=related
Forecast for daylight hours for Saturday and Sunday
Issued: Friday, 13 November 2009
Overview for Saturday
Saturday will be a mixture of bright intervals and scattered showers these falling as sleet above 900 level in the afternoon. Very windy with severe gales.
Hazards
Storm force winds: High risk - Severe gales across the whole area
Gales: High risk - Extensive gales
Severe chill effect: High risk - Severe wind chill throughout the day
Thunderstorms: Low risk - Low risk of showers turning thundery.
Forecast for Saturday
Weather:
Bright intervals and scattered showers these heaviest and most frequent in the morning and becoming less frequent in the afternoon when they could bring some wet snow to the tops of the western Fells. It will continue to be very wet underfoot after overnight rain with streams and rivers swollen and fast flowing so crossings could be treacherous. Due to the strength of the wind and the gusty nature of it then there will be considerable buffeting making it very treacherous on exposed ridges and paths where the rocks will be wet.
Visibility:
Good but becoming poor in the showers making navigation difficult at times.
Hill Fog:
Patches 500 metres in and around the showers.
Maximum winds above 500m:
Southerly 60mph but with gusts 80 to 90mph over the more exposed ridges and summits. Winds veering southwesterly later and easing a little but not so much as you would really notice.
Temperature:
Valleys/Low level: Plus 6 Celsius increasing to 10 Celsius
At 900m: Plus 0 Celsius but feeling bitterly cold due to the wind
Freezing level: 1000 metres lowering to 900 metres
Chance of precipitation:
Dawn - 0900: Heavy rain showers. 60% chance of rain
0900 - 1200: Heavy rain showers. 60% chance of rain
1200 - 1500: Sleet showers. 60% chance of sleet
1500 - Dusk: Light rain showers. 50% chance of rain
Perfect fellrunning weather :rolleyes:
Don't like the sound of that windchill, may have to break out the Sealskinz
thankfully since ive joined ive stamped out those shannannaganns:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
looked at the weather and decided to chicken out of this one
Looking foward to the pics and reviews of this one! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Man from Del Monte
I think the Boulsworth race tomorrow will have better weather.
Weather was great with just a bit of rain . Clear on the tops with not much wind. First time I have done this one and it is a brilliant fell race and packs in a lot for a short race. Big thanks to Black Combe runners. I just have to do The Caw fell race now and I have done the set :D
Thanks to the marshalls and muchos gracias to the tea ladies who let me have a pasty and a pie, :eek:. Great run, didn't come accross any of the nav problems warned of on this thread earlier, and many thanks to the runner who stopped me cutting accross onto a massive bog ;). The descents weren't for the faint hearted and i went at them recklessly, the new Walshes are a lot better than doing it in trail shoes and give me the confidence to take the downhill sections by the wedding veg. Well done to the two runners who attempted the run in road shoes, are you both ok? no broken bones? :D
Al if you were there did you walk into the boozer in baggy traccies? How did it go? If not it was just someone who looked like you.
Fantastic race. Was first time for me too. Lovely course, I found it quite an easy little race. The climbs weren't that long and most of the descents felt quite shallow and well runnable although slippery yesterday. It felt to me like the three shires race in miniature, similar feel to it, similar terrain.
Twas biggest turn out they've ever had too despite conditions. Can't remember the exact figure but it were about 270. Bit of a queue to finish for the middle of the field mind. But difficult to manage with a short race and big field. The last hill up past the pub and then into the field were a killer.
Thanks to black combe. Best day on fells for while.
A cracking race this is. The route is brilliant
A big turnout and my attempt to follow Lloydster and stick with him to the fell gate didnt last long:o.
I had a nasty fall on the first descent and spent part of the night at the Birks Hut with ice over my foot. Managed to finish and have a good battle with the Doctor en route who thrashed me on the descents.
Found out that the talons were crap in the wet. I was sliding around all over the place.
Mr Brigggs seemed to be running around with a smile on his face :). Must have been the chocolate brownies he ate that I made.
A couple of runners in the hall said to me
Whats full kit ?
And do you need it ?
I said maybe you will need a coat and overtrousers and a map, compass and whistle.
The woman proceeded to say that it was to warm for a coat.
I said maybe if you fall and have te walk you might need them.
They duly registered and I heard the guy say to the woman we best head to Blands van and buy some
Jeeeeeeeeeeesus:mad:
i think this is another sign of changes in fell running, as in another thread regarding the spirit of fell running changing (by delicious). Back in the 70's 80's i think most had far better mountain 'sense' than people today! At a race like dunnerdale you have the potential to end up in a very bad way if you fell without kit or got lost. I think nowadays were seein alot of people coming into the sport due to its image (being extreme? and different or something to showoff about at the office) rather than in the past where the vast majority did it for a love of the mountains!
I think that this is one of the most " insightful " comments I have seen posted on these forums so far !Quote:
Originally Posted by steadyeddy