Fell running at night

I'm going to try some non-fell night running later. It'll be my first attempt a la head torch. I think I'll try a route I'm familiar with to start off at least.

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Originally Posted by Grouse

I had to carry my headtorch in my hand the other day cos I was getting a bit light-headed.

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Did you end up getting light-fingered:D

Went out last night with lad on CVFR Halloween run, he loved it. More headtorch runs with him planned. Doesn't seem to slow him down, same can't be said for me:(

Depends what you had for tea?

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Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly

I tend to move onto the roads in Winter, pace being the very reason. Although I love fell running in summer and winter weekends. I would rather spend my winter evening running on the hilly roads around Darwen. I have a great loop that gets me 1800ft of ascent in 10 miles. I find this is done much faster than on the fells with a head torch. So in my personal opinion, Im getting a better workout.

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A good point, however I think for most people it is a play off between the heavy impact of the roads on your joints and the quality of an available decent road route at night. Seeing as though most people train in the evening this is an issue during the winter for those who train frequently during the week. Personally I try and complete 70% of my milage off road.

There's also the simple fact that we fell run because we enjoy it, not just for training benefit. You can't have nights like we had last night on the roads.

http://sarzmountainrun.blogspot.com/...n-in-snow.html

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Originally Posted by IainR

There's also the simple fact that we fell run because we enjoy it, not just for training benefit. You can't have nights like we had last night on the roads.

http://sarzmountainrun.blogspot.com/...n-in-snow.html

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That looks a fantastic night Iain :cool:

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Originally Posted by IainR

There's also the simple fact that we fell run because we enjoy it, not just for training benefit. You can't have nights like we had last night on the roads.

http://sarzmountainrun.blogspot.com/...n-in-snow.html

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Spot on Iain, lad's too young to know about training benefit, just wants to have fun, and why not:)
If i show him your pics, he'll be praying for snow tonight;)

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Originally Posted by mxhornet

I'm going to try some non-fell night running later. It'll be my first attempt a la head torch. I think I'll try a route I'm familiar with to start off at least.

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from the car to the house by any chance!

i'd like to get the knack of fell running in the day

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Originally Posted by Penguin

from the car to the house by any chance!

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No not quite I live in a flat ;)

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Originally Posted by Darth domain

i'd like to get the knack of fell running in the day

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That's one of my main ambitions too :D

Im i alone in saying that when your running down a dark country lane, field or fell....i feel so paranoid that someone is following me, or that if i hear a noice i spin round to see what it is......haha.....im starting to get used to it now though.....

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Im i alone in saying that when your running down a dark country lane, field or fell....i feel so paranoid that someone is following me, or that if i hear a noice i spin round to see what it is......haha.....im starting to get used to it now though.....

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he's behind you!!

Off for one tonight and I'm shivering already..... and I'm indoors at the minute.

Wasn't too bad after all, though a fair chunk of the dark section of my run has an element of background light that said it was probably easier to see where I was going on the darker sections !! Having said that hardest thing as far as seeing where I was going was my breath doing a good impression of mist across my face.

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Originally Posted by mxhornet

Wasn't too bad after all, though a fair chunk of the dark section of my run has an element of background light that said it was probably easier to see where I was going on the darker sections !! Having said that hardest thing as far as seeing where I was going was my breath doing a good impression of mist across my face.

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Carry the torch in your hand when its like that ;):)

Won't you get a lot more movement and therefore see less of where you're going like that ?

No.dum de dum.

(message was too short, hence the dum de dums...)

Tesco have got some LED torches in different sizes - I got the 'c' battery size one. puts my myo XP in the shade (haha), and don't much bother with the headtorch if I'm just out for a run and don't need to be hands free.

Fair enough. Otherwise I was thinking of having it dangle around the waist area.

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Originally Posted by mxhornet

Won't you get a lot more movement and therefore see less of where you're going like that ?

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No you soon develop a steady hand :rolleyes:

Haven't you got enough dangling round the waist area?:confused::eek:

Obviously not lol :D

Going right back to the start of this thread I find I'm a bit slower in the "dark" but perhaps only 20-30 secs per mile. Then again I'm running on easier terrain generally main hazard on my last head torch run was bunkers.

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Originally Posted by Sarah

I guess it depends on how cautious you are, how much light your head torch gives ...

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Headtorch? It's hardly the same with a light.

I'm quite new to fell running at night, but I've done a lot of road running at night. I find that it's much better to wear your head torch around your waist. That way a lot more light makes it to the ground. I also have a small red led on the back of the strap for road running. I'm definately slower on the fell at night.

i agree with the head torch around the waist idea! it is more comfortable and stops the light glare in the eyes.
thanks for the tip

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Originally Posted by kenward25

i agree with the head torch around the waist idea! it is more comfortable and stops the light glare in the eyes.
thanks for the tip

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You should point the light away from your face!:rolleyes::p

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Originally Posted by Dodgy Hip

I'm quite new to fell running at night, but I've done a lot of road running at night. I find that it's much better to wear your head torch around your waist. That way a lot more light makes it to the ground. I also have a small red led on the back of the strap for road running. I'm definately slower on the fell at night.

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That may be fine on flattish ground but what about steep descents?:confused: When it's on your head you will at least get light wherever you are looking.

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

That may be fine on flattish ground but what about steep descents?:confused: When it's on your head you will at least get light wherever you are looking.

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has anyone tried the head torch on the chest strap thing, wasn't it advertised in the last fell runner?

Just read the article (literally about 15mins ago with breakfast!) - seems like a good idea, look forward to hearing if anyone else has used one..

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Originally Posted by Pinchy

Anyone any idea as to how much your normal running pace is affected when fellrunning at night???

A route I often do which takes about 30mins in daylight took me over an hour last night!

C'mon you regular night owls - what's your experience on this subject???

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I've ran only once in the night so far, and it was a 'timed run'.

The results were interesting. On the ascent I was as fast as during the day, give or take a few seconds due to line choosing, but on the descent I was monumentally slow with my own light, but with the help of someone else Hope vision by my side, I could pick up the pace to theirs.

I would say my overall time suffered by 5-10 minutes from a day time.

I'm not bothering going back out at night until I have enough money for a Hope Vision, its just not worth the risk for myself.

hursty, I think depending on the terrain and your familiarity with it, you're fine running at night with an Alpkit Gamma or any one of a number of Petzls (sp!). The problems start when you want to run quickly. Running in your own shadow is a major problem too in Hope-powered company :eek:

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Originally Posted by ukhursty

I've ran only once in the night so far, and it was a 'timed run'.

The results were interesting. On the ascent I was as fast as during the day, give or take a few seconds due to line choosing, but on the descent I was monumentally slow with my own light, but with the help of someone else Hope vision by my side, I could pick up the pace to theirs.

I would say my overall time suffered by 5-10 minutes from a day time.

I'm not bothering going back out at night until I have enough money for a Hope Vision, its just not worth the risk for myself.

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the way I see it most of your fitness gains are made running up hills (it's where you work the hardest for the longest amount of your time out) so you can still get a good work out at night. The descents are slower, you just have to accept that.

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

hursty, I think depending on the terrain and your familiarity with it, you're fine running at night with an Alpkit Gamma or any one of a number of Petzls (sp!). The problems start when you want to run quickly. Running in your own shadow is a major problem too in Hope-powered company :eek:

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Yeah for just a gentle run at night, there probably wouldn't be a problem.

I still think I'll stick to days at the minute, because luckily I can at the minute, and my work is more than likely to be in the evenings :p

Yeah the shadows make it interesting, running along nicely, then it all goes pitch dark infront of you :)