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So Labour would be the first government to do this ? Answer = NoQuote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
Who exactly did you vote for ? Did you vote ? (I don't actually believe you did as none of the parties who you might have voted for could have actually fulfilled your exact requirements, maybe at the next election you should form the 'Christopher Leigh party' and stand for everything you believe in)
So why did it bring Thatcher down then, because Major dropped the Poll Tax pretty much as soon as he'd filled the position as 'Thatcher's chaffeur'.Quote:
Originally Posted by dominion
Because of the ignorant population.Quote:
Originally Posted by Notlob till i die
I remember at the time, I was a relatively new house holder and a factory worker along with my wife - with 2 kids then.
My old rates wer £170 and the new poll tax was £190 x 2 - and I was for it because it was fair.
Previously under the rates, the 2 single old ladies either side of me were both paying the same £170 per household.
So the old rates system was hardly fair was it.
It was in the Tory manifesto - so went to the public vote.
Major was guttless.
You might suggest Dennis Skinner indeed. A guy who I used to greatly admire for his principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Notlob till i die
He seemed like a man of conviction who would be as likely to stick the boot in to his own as he was to the opposing parties.
I don't see him on the box now, or standing up in the Commons ranting about the ridiculous part-privatisation of the Post Office!
In power - he keeps quiet - power corrupts one's principles perhaps.
Notlob I always enjoy your input, even though I don't usually agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Notlob till i die
Something happened when I went down to my local polling station. I was given two papers, one for the local and one for the European. So I put a tick on the European paper and I went to throw the other paper in the bin, where it belongs.
As I did so the Man at the table told me I had to put that paper in the box as well, even if I didn't vote. So I did. It only dawned on me afterwards that I should have put a cross in every box, because there was nothing preventing the counters from using my vote.
Now, I wouldn't dream of voting for any of the parties currently running in the local elections. Those who did so after everything we've seen over the past couple of months are immoral.
The only reason I voted in the European, is because on the road to freedom certain steps have to be taken. One of those steps is to reduce the bureaucratic gravy train. So I voted UKIP. I don't agree with them on everything, but as far as politicians are concerned Nigel Farrange is the most consistent.
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Originally Posted by dominion
All the bureaucrats employed to arrange the emptying of bins.
CL, I always enjoy your input, you remind me of David Icke. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
I don't think we actually agree on anything, I think (definitely) politically and in most every other aspect we are diametrically opposed. Nonetheless it would make for an awfully boring world if we and everyone else did.Quote:
Originally Posted by christopher leigh
For the record, for the first time ever I voted for the Green Party in the European elections, and unlike you we had no council elections, if this had been an option then I'm really not sure who I or even if I would have voted. (I've sorted myself a postal vote out so the man at the polling station wouldn't have been able to tell me I had to put a blank ballot paper into the ballot box, maybe you should consider this.)
Whereas I dont enjoy your input. Frankly the self important pretentious nature of it bores me rigidQuote:
Originally Posted by crowhill
Houses with more people in them don't have more bins to empty, nor do they require more street lighting or need greater fire service coverage. So why should a household with 5 adults pay five times the amount of a household with 1 adult?Quote:
Originally Posted by dominion
Also (and I think this is why the poll tax was so unpopular) is it a well-established premise of UK taxation policy that those with more give more.
I note we have strayed from discussing the BNP onto random political debates and yet more psycho-analysis of Christopher Leigh's personality traits. I think this can only be a good thing. CL, I'd be interested to hear your views on what proportion of the UK's energy should come from nuclear power, and the long-term effects of wildlife tourism on the dwindling African elephant population.