UKA Relays

Well done for putting on a great days running, well organised and really enjoyed the leg 4 race - as for the fence junction for CP1 - that was straight forward and to me an obvious find - and i notorious when racing with a map!
Let's not get into acrimonious discussion on applying the rules - miss the CP and your done, no matter if you challenging for 1st or 141st!!

Thanks to CFR for a great event - tough running (leg 2) but exhilirating to be part of a big event. Anyone know where/when the official results will be posted? Ta (& apologies if I've missed the bleedin' obvious link)

Couldn't agree more Wormstone. Was on the navigation leg. Very enjoyable event.

Suspect results will appear here in time : http://www.c-f-r.org.uk/node/777

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Originally Posted by IainR

How do you know you did 8 miles? Didn't have a GPS on did you?? :-)

Re Mercia's time. I think it was just shy of the hour (I think all th efirst 3 legs were just shy of their predicted times), 2 class runners I think. I don't know the orienteer but he's supposed to be some hot shot and Andy Davies is a 2:27 marathon runner.

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GG was top 10 at the World Orienteering Champs this year, and is a 30min 10km runner as well. They didn't even get the best lines every time, as we were just behind them going from CP5 to 6 and they missed the path cutting below the screes and had to climb up to it, making their time even more impressive.
Thanks to CFR for an enjoyable nav leg, made even more tricky by the visibility.

A great event and thanks for organising it.

Navigation wasnt easy and on Leg 4 I struggled a bit finding checkpoint 2.
Tough climb up through the forest:o.

Downside was someone nicked my fleece and baselayer out of the changing area.
I know of someone else who had a coat pinched as well
I mean whats it coming to ? eh eh ?
Anyway I hope the person who nicked my stuff ( enjoy the baselayer thats about nine years old with welding holes in it) . You can pick them up for £20 for gods sake.

The final run in on Leg 4 down the steep side of the fell was brilliant:)

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Originally Posted by harrymoon

Hi Tom


As Welshharrier says about Tim flying down the last descent needing a parachute, that was really something special to watch, worth the entrance fee alone.

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I think I caught it on video. Will get it edited over the next few day and will post a link to youtube on this thread ASAP.

Good day out. Thanks CFR.

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Originally Posted by Headless

...4-5 get to the final bend in the fence before Blake Fell, contour the hillside pace counting for 600 metres then swing right onto the spur with the control at the end.

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Sounds very simple Headless. It would appear that Stick 'n I were far more 'eadless than thee on that particular section:confused::mad::o

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Originally Posted by marrow

As to consistency in upholding the rules, I couldn't agree more. But when exactly do you think consistency should begin? After this weekend?

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None of us can turn back the clock so yes why not begin now? there's no time like the present.

Despite being part of the team that would have won I reluctantly accept that the decision was the right one, which must mean that by the same token the decision at Tebay was the wrong one. We cannot have double standards, either the rules are followed to the letter every time or a compromise (e.g. time penalty) is arrived at every time. It's no good treating different runners or teams completely differently at one race to how others were treated at another race where the two situations were so similar.

I just hope it sets a precedent where everyone now knows where they stand. i.e. no dib, no finish. I think there needs to be an official FRA ruling put in place otherwise we'll get some organisers who are brave enough to follow the rules and others who turn a blind eye.

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Originally Posted by TimW

Despite being part of the team that would have won I reluctantly accept that the decision was the right one, which must mean that by the same token the decision at Tebay was the wrong one. We cannot have double standards, either the rules are followed to the letter every time or a compromise (e.g. time penalty) is arrived at every time. It's no good treating different runners or teams completely differently at one race to how others were treated at another race where the two situations were so similar.

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I agree.
Maybe the correct decision was taken here as the judges were high ranking officials of the FRA and not just simply the local organisers.

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Originally Posted by Kent

The lack of consistency in applying the rules is laughable. How can the first four at Tebay blatantly miss the first checkpoint (which was clearly visible, marshalled by about 10 people, with 2 flags and a couple of quad bikes thrown in for good measure) and not suffer DQ, but then when the first three can't find a checkpoint at the FRAs (which was in thick clag, not where it said on the map and all three runners had a good go at finding it) the ENTIRE TEAM is DQ'd!?!?!? Can someone please explain this to me because I think it stinks.

At Tebay there was a clear advantage in missing Checkpoint 1 as it cut off a climb. Yesterday there was absolutely NO advantage gained by any of the leading teams, and in fact they LOST time trying to find the checkpoint.

This has had real ramifications and while I'm not saying we should apply different rules to the top teams, I think it's a bit different to finishing mid-table or being DQ'd. For instance the medals in both the English Champs AND NOW the FRA relays have now been directly affected by marshalls' / race officials' discretionary decisions.

All I'm asking for is consistency.

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I agree with this totally (only cos i'm a p*****d off Mercia runner!:mad: