Yes, they did, but most of those MP's stood on manifesto's to leave. Snakes in the grass who will have their comeuppance in the next election, whenever that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
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Yes, they did, but most of those MP's stood on manifesto's to leave. Snakes in the grass who will have their comeuppance in the next election, whenever that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
But that isn't going to work is it, we need some kind of trade agreement, otherwise we will have a very serious food shortage problem within just a few hours and at most a couple of days, of the borders being closed to hauliers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
Our food supply network is based on Just-in-Time (JIT) deliveries, even a minor disruption will cause chaos, see the effects of the petrol prices strike action September 2000.
The same applies to pharmaceuticals.
I hope I don't sound over-dramatic, this is a very real possibility and I believe there are already some effects being noticed in the pharmaceuticals delivery networks.
“A ‘no-deal’ Brexit would mean the biggest disintegration of the complex regulated medicines market in Europe in terms of regulation, cross border movement of goods, comparative pricing, and intellectual property,”
Read the full article fr details on how it is already affecting the UKs position in terms of drugs, trials and regulation on medical care:
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...-brexit--64926
I'm sorry DM, but this is just complete tosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerMouse
I can't remember a post on my fairly long time on this forum that has contained so many whoppers.
It might be economically more beneficial to have some sort of trade agreement, but that is a matter of opinion.
I can certainly give you some benefits of not having one.
Food shortages within a few hours! Why? We control what comes in. The Government has already issued information to say they will not be holding up goods coming in to the UK.
Borders being closed to hauliers! I haven't heard that one before. Source please. I suspect there isn't one.
Even a minor disruption will cause chaos? Really? Well I ship goods to the EU and I can tell you that 24 hour delays are almost a weekly occurrence.
Weather events, strikes, ferry breakdown, Train stuck in tunnel, immigrants walking through tunnel...…
I could go on.
The same applies to pharmaceutical! What the same bull-shit?
No you don't sound over-dramatic, you sound deluded. Do you also believe that rabbits fly and there are tooth fairies at the bottom of the garden?
Shrugs... sorry to upset you.
I cite a reputable source, that in turn links to a comprehensive study.
You rant a bit, sound like you're really angry and call me names...?
Sorry, this is not the kind of 'discussion' I wish to participate in, as you were :)
Mmmh. Thinking about my own contributions - I am quite heartened to read that. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Oh me too, if nothing else my reflection on the countless articles and the concerns of the folk I know who work in the economics department, has made you feel better - result :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Brexit should bring us together, not divide us - if we let them divide the country into tiny pathetic little spats between otherwise rational people - we are giving them exactly what they want!! Rise above it :)
I see Amber Rudd has resigned from the cabinet saying the government aren't spending enough time planning for a deal. Tell us something we don't know.
I wonder at what point we'll reach the nadir of this whole governmental affair. It's certainly hard to see any rapprochement in the near future.
You didn't upset me. You entertained me with some comedy gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by DangerMouse
Just on your "source" that I neglected to opine on.
It's written October 2018 and things have changed. Of course scientists are a little jittery even now, but they are nearly all on the EU gravy train in some way and concerned about future funding.
Your piece includes the scare stories about insulin. Novo Nordisk, the largest supplier to the UK says it will not have a problem. It has made provisions and has been holding increased stocks in the UK since before the March Brexit that never was and continues to do so.
Incidentally, despite Brexit, and just befor the article in your link was written, Novo Nordisk opened a new diabetes research centre in Oxford, an investment of over £100 million, which will lead to around 100 new scientific jobs.
Oh, and whilst we are on the scientific jobs, another concern from your link.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...ientists-66252
What is clear though, is that if you Google for "insulin Brexit supply" you get pages and pages of scare stories (mostly from 2018 or very early 2019 it has to be said)
It really is irresponsible and I have a great deal of sympathy for those relying on supply of key drugs.
If you take a company like Novo Nordisk, they employ 40,000 people, they make drugs in 8 countries with some outside the EU.
They are used to how the international supply chain and regulatory network operates.
Also the EU has passed around 50 provisions to cover many such issues in the event of no deal.
The main problem is that we haven't yet reciprocated them in full. You see there is a problem. Our Parliament won't make the rather sensible step of taking the measures necessary to cover a No Deal scenario and make it as smooth as possible.
Rather reckless, considering that Mr Macron was not happy about the last extension in the Spring and an extension to 31/10 is entirely at the discretion of the EU, taking only one member state to veto if a request comes in.
I've never seen you a as a poster of whoppers Graham, even though I do disagree with you at times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
If you have ever delivered any, it is probably done with your typical style that indicates to everyone that your comment is a little tongue in cheek.
Given the latest ruling by the courts, who is actually guilty of proroguing parliament, Boris or the Queen?