10,000ft a week

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Originally Posted by emmilou

where ever my little golf takes me!

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Little golf.:D



I see, the worlds your oyster kinda thing then.

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Originally Posted by Al Fowler

Little golf.:D



I see, the worlds your oyster kinda thing then.

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pretty much :D;)

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Originally Posted by emmilou

I think you need to vary it Adrian, have you set a date yet? I'm doing both hill rep sessions and long days out and the hill rep sessions vary too. Somedays they are long hills with varied reps i.e fast and short, long and steady etc others it's the same hill but a lot shorter but many more reps and where I can't get out (I live in a very flat place too) I improvise all the time. This can be 350 stair reps whilst the kids eat their tea or an hour on maximum incline on the treadmill whilst it's snowing outside (last tuesday!)

I can't run long days on both weekend days because of the family etc but invariably sundays are the days where I'll get the hours and the steady climbs in the legs and of course mean a drive off somewhere to do that.

From my own point of view and whether this applies to you or not I feel well no I KNOW I can keep running for 6 or 7 or 8 etc hours on the flat or slightly undulating (and have done ultra's in the past to know that for sure) but feel yes there is a need to get some climbing in the legs for sure. Having not done a BG (yet) I don't know how much the 10,000ft a week applies but I loved Cornicemans post and tbh it made me feel a whole lot better as have been under a cloud of doom these last couple of weeks about it all - I think the bad weather hampering plans has contributed vastly to that. But, I do know if I don't train to climb hills then I ain't gonna be able to climb hills no matter how much my mind tells me otherwise!!!

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emmilou thanks for that - yes, I liked corniceman's post too! What you say re. climbing makes total sense and it's noted. I also probably know that I could jog along for 6-7 hours already. I've doubtless tended towards the long-distance undulating run cos they are so enjoyable (compared to hill reps ..).

One thing I have found that I'm no good at is doing two long runs on successive days at the weekend - it just wears me out. Ten steps into the second run I know I'm not going to enjoy it and that feeling remains throughout.

So I've promised myself that I'll do as big a day as possible on Saturday, have a few pints Saturday night, and a total rest Sunday. This is suiting me well at the moment! (I suppose it might change when I start spending long weekends up in the Lakes, as it would be shame to waste a day.)

Re. date: I had pencilled in late July on the basis that I wanted to give myself as much time as possible to join a club and / or meet people and support other attempts and get a support team together.

But I'm thinking that this should be achievable by late June so I might go for then. I certainly think I can reach the required fitness level by then - it was jsut the logistics that's been daunting me a bit.

I need to come to a definite decision on this though. :o

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

You can and have run all day. Its all about the climbing and descent ;)

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Don't forget that too Adrian. 28,000ft of ascent has 28,000ft of descent too. and those quads can take a trashing. not something you can train for on a step machine

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Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo

Re. date: I had pencilled in late July on the basis that I wanted to give myself as much time as possible to join a club and / or meet people and support other attempts and get a support team together.

But I'm thinking that this should be achievable by late June so I might go for then. I certainly think I can reach the required fitness level by then - it was jsut the logistics that's been daunting me a bit.

I need to come to a definite decision on this though. :o

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June over July

less bracken, less humidity, more sunlight (just) and just in case you don't make it more time to get another attempt in:o

IanDarkPeak may I PM you with a question regards Dark Peak BG attempts as have no joy when emailing club in last week.

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Originally Posted by tri-mind

IanDarkPeak may I PM you with a question regards Dark Peak BG attempts as have no joy when emailing club in last week.

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yes no problem

Tell me who you emailed. I know he has been busy of late and it's not his main address so he may not have picked it up yet.

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

Don't forget that too Adrian. 28,000ft of ascent has 28,000ft of descent too. and those quads can take a trashing. not something you can train for on a step machine

June over July

less bracken, less humidity, more sunlight (just) and just in case you don't make it more time to get another attempt in:o

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noted :)

Hi Guys
Im in a simmillar position as I live in a very flat area, the nearest decent hill to me is about 50 miles. I use the Incline treadmill weekly at the local leisure centre at full gradient for 2-3 hours working up to 4 hours closer to the event, plus long runs on the deep sands on the beach with weight. I also do an exercise where I place my back flat against a wall and slide down so I am in a right angled sitting position placing all my weight on my quads, usually for 3 sets of 5 mins, I tend to do this after the treadmill or a long run when the quads already feel trashed, this seems to help my downhill running, plus I do reps up and down a very very steep but short sea defence wall, really hits my quads and also some out of the seat sprinting on my mountain bike, this all seems to transfer over to hill runs in the highlands and the lakes. Last years Tmb, my strengths where the flats and downhill I would pass all those who had kicked my arse on the climbs, even the last descent into Cham I flew down passing around 40 runners, but saying that I have very strong quads, heavy in body so gravity helps out, but ascending I am slow, gravity kicks my butt!
So there are other ways you can get around training for descending, the only things missing from this type of training is the lack of building up the courage and confidence for fast descending and the rapid reflexes plus reading the ground skills you would develop from actual hill work.

where do you live Ronin. I occasionally run along the beach from Hornsea. I find running on sand builds strength similar to running through heavy peat

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Hornsea, Ian, theres where I live, do you often go to Hornsea?:)