Hi Smoggy,Quote:
Originally Posted by smoggy
apart from resting (which is great, rather than trying to run through an injury) have you done anything else to rehab your calf?
Lynne
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Hi Smoggy,Quote:
Originally Posted by smoggy
apart from resting (which is great, rather than trying to run through an injury) have you done anything else to rehab your calf?
Lynne
RICE for first 3 days after sustaining injury. Complete rest week 1. Introduced mountain biking week 2. Walking and cycling in Cairngorms week 3. Rest plus one circuit training session week 4. Built up exercise very carefully without any noticeable problems to calf. Went out for very gentle run on Tuesday and calf started niggling on an uphill section 30 mins into run. Stopped immediately and went for Guinness and read of Fellrunner mag in the local.
Here's another repetitive calf strain suffererer who has just spent a fortune on some calf guards that I wouldn't dare wear in daylight or company :oQuote:
Originally Posted by cyclops
Running ok at the moment but feel like I'm on borrowed time so any magic suggestions from Lynne would be appreciated!
Sounds like you've been sensible in building back up gradually. other things to consider - using a foam roller - helps to keep muscles/soft tissues pliable, in good general health and improve circulation - all factors in rehab and general maintenance of soft tissues. also, and yes I'm biased as it's my job, but seeing a good soft tissue therapist may be needed if your rest/gradual build up hasn't got the issue sorted. sometimes there's scar tissue that builds up with injury and just doesn't go without intervention, (and whatever claims those knobbly foam rollers shout about, they cannot replace the subtle touch and manipulation that a therapists hands can do) that can lead to less efficient or incorrect biomechanics, there could be muscle imbalances, muscles not firing correctly, gait issues. lots of things could be causal factors and a good therapist will be able to identify those and through soft tissue manipulation, and giving you advice/rehab strategies, help you get back to fitness.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoggy
hope that helps, finding a therapist who is a runner (ideally a fell runner) can be very beneficial too!
Lynne
Hi Lyndon,Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyndon
My reply to Smoggy I've just posted should give you a few ideas. I'd be interested to see what calf guards you wear - what type are they? generally compression type items are good for helping with circulation and recovery generally but in my opinion they shouldn't be worn long term to essentially mask an injury. the cause needs to be found so that you can get it fixed for the long term. if you don't get the cause identified and fixed then the issue will keep coming back (which it seems to be doing with you), and long term that will cause more and more damage to your soft tissues, leaving you vulnerable to greater injury and ultimately less time running.
I'd recommend you go see someone local, who is recommended by other runners. sadly the body is not like a car, we can't take out a muscle and put a new one in like a piece of an engine that's faulty. the other thing to remember is that all of our bits in our body are connected.....fascia is the stuff that links everything - have a read of this so you understand what I mean: http://globaltherapies.wordpress.com...anating-stuff/
hope that helps, shout if you have any questions.
Lynne
Well, after today's 14 mile trot around the snow-blown wastes of Cambridgeshire, over mud, snow, snowdrifts and snowdrift camouflaged mud I appear to have collected a twinge in my left foot's arch/big toe. Painful? Slightly. Enough to stop running? No. I do want to find out what's causing it though.
The tightness in my upper quads/groin is just an annoyance right now. All it needs is a bit of stretching.
Thanks Lynne,Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclops
I went for compressport and, so far, all good. I've got insertional achilles issues in my left heel and its the right calf that pulls so I think I'm compensating with my right side for the weakness in my left (my theory).
The right soleus muscle is noticeably tighter than the left so I'm working on loosening it up with rolling, stretching and sports massage when I can afford it.
Makes me sound like a right old crock but its amazing what you learn about the body when you get an injury!
Lyndon
Put my back out today, that'll be a lot if tedious stretching and a lot of quite enjoyable cycling for the near future then.
My shin was causing not inconsiderable pain from the beginning of what was supposed to be a 20 miler. I sat down and thought about calling it a day, but after a tentative prod at the painful area and a bit of a massage, it felt a lot better. 20 miles later and no noticeable problem...
Injuries are weird.
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:mad:
Still not running after two months with a knee injury - (self-diagnosed) medial collateral ligament strain.
I tried running through it in the early stages, which proved to be pretty stupid. So now I'm waiting to be entirely pain-free before venturing out again, and haven't so much as put my shoes on for a month.
All in all, it's not been my year injury-wise; unfortunately, that's for the third consecutive year.
If they were the same injuries, I'd be feeling like giving up, but as they're not I'm just putting it down to a prolonged patch of bad luck....:(
That's the comeback on the back burner for a while then.
Last evening I as I tried to get up from a seated position I felt a pain in my lower back on the right side. I couldn't straighten up properly. Ended up finding it easier to get around the house on all fours, much to the amusement of the dogs!
After a very restless and painful night I couldn't get my pants and socks on without assistance this morning.
Ibuprofen taken last night and this morning and once I have got myself upright I am able to walk/shuffle around.
Looking back at yesterday I was lifting a few 60 litre bags of compost about and also up and down ladders clearing gutters and putting up bloody Christmas lights, during which I was probably reaching out too far.
I can only think that during those activities I have pulled or strained something but cannot recall any discomfort at the time. Don't think I'll seek any medical attention at this stage but keep taking the Ibuprofen for a couple of days and hope it settles down.
Anyone got any tips, apart from don't put Christmas lights up in November?
PS What makes it worse is that it is a glorious day and I had planned a Grand Fondo for today. Bugger:mad:
You have my sympathies LB. I get lower back tweaks from time to time and they're a bugger.
My only tips, learnt from years of similar things is: don't do any heavy lifting without having done some exercise earlier in the day.
I hope you're feeling better soon.
I also suffer from lower back pain. I think it originates from years of abuse renovating houses virtually single handed. I only need to look at a bag of plaster these days! Can't stand up straight when it's really bad much to the amusement of the wife. As Noel suggests, easing your way in to any heavy lifting helps. I also incorporate a few specific stretches and strengthing exercises into my daily physio routine. Good for your core too so no doubt beneficial if you get back to running or cycling.
Planks... they don't just work the stomach.. fantastic for entire core and lower back!
I'm suffering the last 36 hrs after my hard downhill session on tuesday, hip flexors are in a lot of pain, probably from not doing any sustained hard descending recently. Couldn't get out last night, nor this morning. Hoping i might manage an easy run out tonight...
Parsonage Turner Syndrome anyone? I guess it's just me then.
Jolly uncommon - did not see a case in 33 years, though I did see several cases of a similar problem affecting the thighs.Quote:
Originally Posted by benshep
When I started reading about this, I was wondering if it was what I have been experiencing for the last two weeks; but my symptoms are far less severe. It started with pain on the left side of the neck, bad enough to stop me sleeping for a couple of nights. In a telephone consultation with a GP, I was advised to use Ibuprofen and a warm towel (I have been using a hot water bottle).Quote:
Originally Posted by benshep
The pain has become more diffuse, spreading to the shoulder, but less intense. The strange thing is that I am only aware of it at night. So: pain in the neck, at night: must be vampires sucking my blood. The trouble with that theory is that we eat a lot of garlic here.
Anyway, Benshep, you have my sympathy; this seems to be a very unpleasant condition.
thanks Anthony. I must be very lucky, because it's my third bout of it in 10 years!Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
I hope yours is not PT. If it is, once the pain abates the degenerative phase kicks in. in my first case of this, 10 years ago, i lost all use of my right arm. the second time, two years ago, (left arm that time) the loss of motion was much less severe but it still got very weak (the infraspinatus muscle - on the shoulder blade - wasted to almost nothing). so this time it's familiar, but a case of wait and see how severe it will be.
Llani boy I did my back at the same time as you and even down to finding it easier to move on all fours, however my approach in view of the need to excercise my collie was to slightly reduce my daily mileage and to dig out my walking poles to aid my posture and set to walking as swiftly as I could over my usual stamping ground initially it was pretty uncomfortable but after a 3 days the poles were back in store and I was moving more freely and at no point did i entertain the use of nsaids and back to normal now until next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
I only mention the above because it woked for me and may be something that is of interest to you or anybody else good luck
Yesterday I had my left shoulder surgery and on coming round in the recovery room found myself being attended to by a very nice nurse, having a dry throat and an embarrassingly very firm stiffy which would not go away!
Having had a cervical nerve root block in my neck I had a left arm that was totally numb and over which I have had no control until a couple of hours ago, 18hrs after surgery.
Speaking to my surgeon afterwards the good news is that the arthroscopic subacromial decompression and arthroscopic arthrolysis he carried out were successful and that there are no tears or damage to muscles.
The not so good news is that there is evidence of arthritis in the joint which will probably result in me needing a new shoulder in the future! He advises that ideally this would not be until I am 70 as it is a procedure that really should only be done once. I therefore need to manage the shoulder and this means no heavy work above shoulder height so my hedge cutting/pruning days are done.
I have had my sling off this morning and done a few exercise and can feel I have more range of movement already. My first physiotherapy appointment is tomorrow.
I should be able to jog next week and cycle in a fortnight providing the range of movement causes no pain.
Onwards and upwards!
Good news LB. I hope it all continues to go well.
That improved range of movement sounds good but take it gently!
Great stuff.... but no handstands for a few days.
I hadn't realised that your injury was so severe, Llani -- "left arm that was totally numb" -- anyway, I hope you are back in action soon.
Pleased for you LB all the best
The arm wasn't numb before surgery, AK, just for 18hrs after the nerve root block injection prior to surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
Thanks everyone for your kind comments.
If Wales win the 6 Nations tonight, just take it easy on the fist-pumping and cartwheels :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
Hope there's more movement today (that's in your arm, not tonight's game!).
A full week after shoulder surgery and things are pretty good. Still sore but I have got much more range of movement than I had prior to having it done.
Last Thursday, Friday and Saturday, apart from the exercises I was given, I took it easy mainly watching rugby and cycling on TV.
Sunday a 4 mile walk, Monday 5 miles, Tuesday 6 miles and this afternoon 9 miles. This morning I went back to the hospital to see the Physiotherapist and she is pleased with my progress and did a bit of manipulation. I've got a few new exercises to do before I return next week.
The only negative is that when I asked her if I could start jogging, her brow furrowed and I got a look which needed no words to go with it!
She explained, and it all made sense, that if I tried to run, the natural movement of the arm/shoulder and the associated jolting would cause inflammation in the area and set the healing process back which is the last thing I want.
My plan now is to heed her advice and not think about running until May but vastly increase the walking and recce some routes, highlighted on here by others, like the Kinder Killer, Kinder Dozen and the Gritstone Anytime Challenge with a view of giving them a go later in the year.
I've also set myself two realistic challenges for the Autumn, the Cambrian Coast Sportive in September and the Y3P's, if I can get an entry.
Onwards and Upwards.
not so much today but thought I might give an update why I've not been around much lately.
going into Lockdown I developed bone spurs on my talus which has made running very painful, I was going through the process to have them ground off when my surgeon pointed out after an MRI that I have very little cartilage in my ankle joints. this was certainly adding to my pain.
So at that point my illustrious running career came to a bit of an abrupt end...thats it...so i'm afraid im now a retired runner.
I can still walk but I'll not be eyeballs out in any races any more. it was good while it lasted...:(
Sad to hear that you can't race any more, IanDP; but pleased that you have now got more time to be involved in the revival that the Forum is currently experiencing.:)
Sad news indeed Ian. Good to hear you can still get out walking - I hope you're still enjoying the fells.
Sorry to hear that Ian, I wondered why I hadn't seen you for a while.
I think I'm coming to a similar point myself. I'm only just managing to scrape through the remains of the 50@50 heavily dosed up on painkillers and taking about a week to recover after each race. Knee cartilage in my case though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Thanks guys. sorry to hear about your knee Ian, it appears time waits for no man (or person) as some one pointed out to me the other week i may be breaking down but hell its been a helluva ride to get here. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fellgazelle
Way to go Ian I have always led my life guided by the wise words of the quote by Hunter S Thompson as my guide :- Hunter S. Thompson > Quotes > Quotable QuoteQuote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Hunter S. Thompson
“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
― Hunter S. Thompson, The Proud Highway: Saga of a Desperate Southern Gentleman, 1955-1967
Reading your post I figure you are familiar with the quote
Yes I was using a little poetic licence though..:)Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnK
Whilst at bramley parkrun today, volunteering at the finish funnel not running, i was told what i think is the most woefully unnecessary and tragic injury story i've ever heard. I thought i could cut a sorry sight with injury, but this lady has taken the biscuit.
She developed plantar fasciitis, but didn't approach the recovery properly and just ran through it. Changes to her gait put so much adverse loading through her knee that she collapsed one half of the meniscus and tore a cruciate ligament. In order to address this, the surgeon had to break her femur and remove a triangle shaped piece in order to alter the alignment of the femur on the buggered meniscus. The bone grew back fine and the joint restabilised, she now runs slowly three times a week and has to back off totally if it gets painful. Quite remarkable.
I was in Bramley today, its been a long time dince I was last here.
There's a good tooling shop opposite the park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogmonster
That would be Park Tool then?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
I use no other.:)