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thought a quote from Ferris Bueller could sum things up

"Not that I condone fascism, or any -ism for that matter. -Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself."

I think Danbert's politician highlights the problem.

The hatred and vile that he shows against the BNP is comparable with the hatred and vile that he complains about.

I think for those that have had a pop at CL for his assertion that the main parties are as bad as BNP, this is what he is alluding to.

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Originally Posted by Witton Park

I think Danbert's politician highlights the problem.

The hatred and vile that he shows against the BNP is comparable with the hatred and vile that he complains about.

I think for those that have had a pop at CL for his assertion that the main parties are as bad as BNP, this is what he is alluding to.

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Danbert is spot on, and as has already agreed the politicians should be:

"pointing out how ridiculous the BNP's policies are by asking them to clarify how they would carry out their manifesto, and by picking holes in this"

Perhaps the politician's hatred is comparable.... but his hatred is towards something that has already (mostly) been agreed to be wrong.

So therefore hating something that is wrong is not as bad as hating someone because of there race, skin colour etc. So the main parties may be bad but they are not as bad as the BNP, there is a big differance.

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Originally Posted by are we there yet

Danbert is spot on, and as has already agreed the politicians should be:

"pointing out how ridiculous the BNP's policies are by asking them to clarify how they would carry out their manifesto, and by picking holes in this"

Perhaps the politician's hatred is comparable.... but his hatred is towards something that has already (mostly) been agreed to be wrong.

So therefore hating something that is wrong is not as bad as hating someone because of there race, skin colour etc. So the main parties may be bad but they are not as bad as the BNP, there is a big differance.

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that's hitting the nail on the head... if you haven't done already, all of you apologists for the BNP or those who think other mainstream politicians are "just as bad" please watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DdF...om=PL&index=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqI2k...om=PL&index=19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC-SN...rom=PL&index=3

and then see if you still feel the same way.

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Originally Posted by nikalas

that's hitting the nail on the head... if you haven't done already, all of you apologists for the BNP or those who think other mainstream politicians are "just as bad" please watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DdF...om=PL&index=18

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqI2k...om=PL&index=19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC-SN...rom=PL&index=3

and then see if you still feel the same way.

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I tried to Nikalas, but all the URLs don't work. It looks like you've pasted from a truncated URL.

The comment re Colne and that belt is interesting, Keighley has a large asian minority, it is odd that swimming baths can have racism, have felt intimidated / seen racism between young people when with little and big biara BUT in gym at same building have not seen anything.

Children aren't born racist, they learn it, as adults we need to teach that it is wrong and that there is a better way. I voted red, have done all the time, don't like all that they do but do think they are better than others. Hate the lies and other crap that is emerging but there are honest MPs who have the constituents at heart, I happen to believe mine is good but I have time for the leader of Bradford council (a Blue) who had the decency to reply to an email I sent him without lie, bull or political rubbish at 10.30 on a sunday night!!

I have faith in Britain, the British people and life, remain optimistic about life, however much crap and horrible info I come across in my job. We are lucky in this country and sometimes I think people forget it.

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Originally Posted by nikalas

I give up... that last statement is simply a ridiculous contradiction. Of course they're worse if they're racist!

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No it isn't. You and others on here just don't want to face the truth. In the Daily Mail yesterday there were two stories which prove My point. Police now searching more whites without evidence, to bring the numbers up to that of blacks, and gipsies being put at the front of Gp's queues.

Racism in other words.

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Originally Posted by nikalas

thought a quote from Ferris Bueller could sum things up

"Not that I condone fascism, or any -ism for that matter. -Ism's in my opinion are not good. A person should not believe in an -ism, he should believe in himself."

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That's a contradiction. If he means people should make something of themselves, then they should believe in the only system that allows them to do just that: Capital...ism

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Originally Posted by noel

Most members of the three main parties seem to hold this view. By voicing this kind of opinion, they're helping the BNP. What real politicians should be doing is not dismissing the BNP, but pointing out how ridiculous the BNP's policies are by asking them to clarify how they would carry out their manifesto, and by picking holes in this.

The BBC are just as bad if not worse. It really offends me that the today programme presenters don't interview BNP politicians in a way that they would interview members of other parties. Give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves.

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Let me see now. Politicians pointing out the contradictions in BNP policy. How are they going to point out the inconsistencies of the BNP, when they practise the same inconsistencies?Tell me that Mr Edmonds

CL, I can't quite believe that because it is written in the Daily Mail you think that it is true, come on......