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It's not a natural movement and can lead to injury, best avoid it tbh;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
First time at the HH and looking forward to it. What is the route like underfoot and is there a detailed map/route description I can download?
Cheers
Good question Irish ! You beat me to it. Bought the OS map, so halfway there......................
Still building mileage? There's a 26 mile training run from Heptonstall on Sunday (about 20 of us running) - following the route of the 6 Trigs / Mag 7.
Mixture of Tod Harriers and CVFR plus a load of forumites from various clubs - all welcome.
See Mag 7 thread if you're interested.
There is a route description on the application form and a reasonably useful map here:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=...e698f159942de2
My first time this year and from what I've heard some sections can be quite tough on the legs, think steady slow pace is in order for me:o
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cheers for this, I think I need to have a closer look at the OS map. Whats the consensus on footwear, is it fell shoes or trail?
I'm hoping to get by with my trusty Roclite 312's, but would welcome opinions !
Hoping trail shoes will do since that's all I've got at the moment!
Seriously considering my Mizuno wave harriers as a good hybrid for trail/fell
Fell, trail or road will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by irish
Last year I did it in road shoes.
This year I'll be sporting my brand new Hokas http://misanthropicrunner.blogspot.com/
Hi,
It will be my first time at Haworth Hobble too, and a distance I have never done before. Done plenty of 20-25 milers, did The Hebden in January in just under 4 hours, but to finish 32 miles I will need to go a fair bit slower? Any advice greatly received...
I have the description and have marked on an OS map and was planning to go and reccy a section on Saturday.
Is there plenty of provisions at the checkpoints?
Thanks for any advice!:thumbup:
Forgot to add - I did the Hebden in my mudclaws, but from looking at this route, there is a fair bit of road and stone track so I'm thinking my faithful mizuno wave harrier trail shoes will be okay...
Did my first ultra last year, the 40 mile Rosedale Ultra. I just made sure I ate & drank every hour without fail. It worked for me. That & compression socks !! If you're up to 25 miles, you'll be fine.
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I'm looking forward to your full review of the Hokas which I'm sure you will post on the Barefoot Running thread. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkL
Need any advice on colour?Quote:
Originally Posted by irish
The section along Stoney Lane, into and out of Hebden Bridge is well worth a reccy - the description is slightly confusing in places if not downright wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Cathy, there will be alcoholic refreshments at Mankinholes :thumbup: Other than that, what else might you be glad of? Oh, and don't forget to bring your own cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
I'm looking forward to this whisky boost Luke, to float me up Stoodley Pike. I will bring a pint glass.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Mr B, I trust you'll be having one of those upside down industrial bottles that pubs use; and a funnel to aid the filling of drinks bladders without wasting a drop. ;)
Not going to be able to fit a recce in now. Hoping to latch on to someones coat tails !!
That's pretty much my plan!
Surely it can't fail !!
A funnel is actually quite a good idea, Nick. Lots of squash gets wasted by way of spillage.Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
What about optics?
Bloody ell, everyone's heard of the whiskey now, might be none left by the time i get there:sneaky:Quote:
Originally Posted by DinoF
Don't worry, Steve. I think you will be there before me at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
Recced the middle 20 miles of the route last weekend, all good apart from one quick query I have. When you leave the Long Causeway it says in the route description "follow footpath (not the farm track) past Stiperden House Farm". But on the gps track on their website it shows the route as going straight down the track, which seems the logical route (marked as part of the Burnley Way on OL21). Is it OK to use the track or should I stick to the footpath?
That's a very good question.
As I understand it, the official route is the 'path' that runs almost alongside the track. Except that it isn't really a path, because it's so pointless going that way that no-one apart from a Haworth Hobbler ever uses it. The result is that it's left rough, boggy and unmarked.
If the rationale is to minimise inconvenience to the farmer, I don't really get it:
1) The fields get churned up.
2) Right by the farm, you have to scramble back over a wall and drop down onto the track in any case.
3) The track itself is a major long distance route, while the 'path' isn't.
In my view, the BIG 'no-no' at this point is the cheat I see every year, where some people follow the road loop. This is longer, but much faster as it misses all the gloop at the bottom, and a significant descent and climb.
However, we should always follow the instructions given by organisers, as no-one wants to jeopardise an event.
Perhaps Brett can clarify this for us.
I ran round there yesterday. Do you mean some people cheat by not going down the track or path at all, but follow the road all the way round? I can't believe that's quicker - it seems a very big loop? As for the track/path "choice" - last time I did it, it was flagged in the field - that should eliminate any choice or doubt. Be good to hear Brett's take on it though.Quote:
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I have another route question - There is a short cut that cuts off a bit of the path to Hurstwood dam en route to Cant Clough dam wall - is that legit or should you stick to the track?
Yes. It IS a big loop, but it IS quicker, at least at my end of the field where people tend to be walking the ascents by that stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by crowhill
r0bh is correct in saying that the Hobble gps track shows the track being followed, but it also shows a different route back into Haworth so I guess it can't be taken as 'official', despite being on the website.
I'm not sure where you mean when you refer to the Cant Clough short cut, but I can't imagine it's a huge deviation or benefit. I'd tend to stick to the track.
Had not realised anyone stayed on the road- all those I see leave the road and all go on 'th path that isn't' not the big track ( I believe the farmer is the issue, although I agree with the previous post that I can't quite see why he prefers us churning up a field
I used that on the Calderdale Hike last year Crowhill, remember someone saying that on the Hobblihike you should stay on the path that passes Hurstwood Dam.(Peninne Bridleway) I've always gone that way on the Hobble and not seen anyone use the short cut, one for Brett to clear up maybe, hope that helps mate.Quote:
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Thanks Steve - If we're talking about the same bit then there's some open access land that cuts the corner of Hurstwood Dam wall, it's mostly roughish but there are some decent trods through there. It's probably only a minute quicker. Happy to stick to the path and defo will do if that's what we're supposed to do. Cheers.
As I recall there used to be a checkpoint (numbers taken but no clip) at the path junction at SD 895 324, presumably to make sure we followed the track, but it hasn't been there for a few years. It's so tempting to do a bit of intelligent route optimisation like on the Calderdale Hike.Quote:
Originally Posted by crowhill
Dear Brett, since the checkpoint hasn't been there in a goodly while, can we assume that it's alright to proceed down the orange dashed line to Cant Clough Reservoir should we so choose? Ta. :w00t:
I'm seriously considering taking the road loop from Long Causeway this year for the first time. I remember the farcical situation last year with runners fanning out across the boggy fields trying to follow the unused and invisible footpath. According to my map the track is the Burnley Way. How can the Burnley Way be out of bounds? Brett?
Ooh now, that would be a bit cheeky, if you're talking about the permissive fp that runs next to Rams Clough; huge short cut!Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
Unfortunately the entry form actually mentions following the bridleway and passing the Hurstwood dam wall (shame!), which kind of prevents the short cut across the spoil heaps as well.
The route off the Long Causeway is an interesting one; I'd agree that the 2011 sweeper's GPS trace follows the track and I'll bet most runners did too.
I suspect Brett is keeping his head down on this one; he's appeased the land owner by putting the 'follow path, not track' wording in but I doubt it'll be an issue on the day.
Last year me and a couple of other blokes were wading through the shitty field as we watched another runner jauntily pass us on the track and disappear off in the distance - showing us a clean pair of heels as it were. Terribly unsporting.
I'll be following the rules to the letter again this year.
I'll be following anybody I can........................Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark L
AndyA, it was a bit cheeky wasn't it. I don't know what came over me. I've just reminded myself of the brief route notes. It does state clearly to continue to the junction where CP2 would be, and it gives the grid ref, so that's what I'll be doing as usual.
As for the Burnley Way, since it's a recognised public footpath, what legitimate reason could there be for us as pedestrians not being allowed to use it?
I will enquire whether a man with a pint glass has been through, if the answer is no, i shall intruct the marshalls to save a pint for said glass:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by DinoF