Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
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Originally Posted by
FellMonster
You should have chosen your quotes better to illustrate the point for numbf*cks like me who can't be arsed to read through everything!
I provided a link for you! (the little arrow). More to the point, CL's views on ID cards, roadside fingerprinting, economics, the NHS, the BNP, Racism, and Politics (amongst other things) are lifted straight out of the Daily Mail.
He said in the previous thread that I was wrong about his love of the Daily Mail (I used the words 'beloved Daily Mail') and now uses the Daily Mail to back up his point.
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
It's all foreplay Heathens, I wonder though, what he does for proper foreplay ....hmmm :)
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
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Originally Posted by
FellMonster
It's all foreplay Heathens, I wonder though, what he does for proper foreplay ....hmmm :)
It's ok, the Daily Mail has the answer:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...new-study.html
;)
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
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Originally Posted by
TheHeathens
Hahaha.....brilliant.....enjoyed reading that...cheers ;)
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
I think I explained how I came to be reading the Daily Mail in a past post. Someone drops it off for me on an infrequent basis, so I read it. Someone else drops off the Manchester Evening News for me as well, so I read that.
Anyway it's only a fool who'll say that just because a story finds it's way into the Daily Mail, then it must be false.Those who do so are attempting to stifle discussion by adopting the 'argument from intimidation.'
Since I'm not ashamed of the fact that I read the Daily Mail or Manchester Evening News, then the attack has failed. I don't hold the same fundamental views as either of those papers, but that doesn't mean I dismiss everything they print.
One last point Heathens. If you continue to lie and misrepresent my views you'll find your world crashing round around you.
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Personally I like the sun......the simple reason is that it doesn't really claim to be anything that it isn't....it laughs at itself....
Some tits for the boys on page 3
A healthy dose of sport for them at the back
A cynical bread and butter type news coverage at the front with insulting diagrams thrown in for good measure......
I think they should rename their little oddities boxes as TIT BITS however..;.//
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
Good offer on for The Times at the moment - 3.50 for a full week of papers over 3 months. Have got promo code and number if interested - they even have some fell race results in (no breasts though).
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
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Originally Posted by
nikalas
I think we're getting off the point again. Yes there are inconsistencies and wrongs (plenty!!) with the current government, system, policing etc but this is the real world not a utopia.
But the BNP is not the solution and people need to be aware of who they really are and what they really stand for.
I don't think however that any other political leaders in this country have been convicted for inciting racial hatred. Or, have prospective councillors who's "dream" is to "machine gun muslims coming out of a mosque".
Right, back onto the issue. I tried to watch the first video on display. After watching 5minutes of the first, I realised it was a waste of time. The BBC only showed the bits that represented the BNP in the way they wanted to.To really know the full context we have to listen to everything that was said
Now maybe Mr Griffin was incited for racial hatred, but lets face it the Labour Government has fixed the laws to stifle free speech.
I listened to Nick Griffin on the BBC a couple of weeks ago. As Stick pointed out earlier(with another member) his comments were quite coherent. His position is that discrimination is being directed at the indigenous people, and he gave a few examples. He claimed that his party would stand up for the indigenous people.
So who will the indigenous people vote for. Will they vote for a party that discriminates against them, or will they vote for someone who discriminates against someone else. Since there are no parties that don't stand for discrimination, those are the only choices. That's why the BNP may come to power.
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
Right, back onto the issue. I tried to watch the first video on display. After watching 5minutes of the first, I realised it was a waste of time. The BBC only showed the bits that represented the BNP in the way they wanted to.To really know the full context we have to listen to everything that was said
Now maybe Mr Griffin was incited for racial hatred, but lets face it the Labour Government has fixed the laws to stifle free speech.
I listened to Nick Griffin on the BBC a couple of weeks ago. As Stick pointed out earlier(with another member) his comments were quite coherent. His position is that discrimination is being directed at the indigenous people, and he gave a few examples. He claimed that his party would stand up for the indigenous people.
So who will the indigenous people vote for. Will they vote for a party that discriminates against them, or will they vote for someone who discriminates against someone else. Since there are no parties that don't stand for discrimination, those are the only choices. That's why the BNP may come to power.
Rubbish! Regardless of how the programme was edited, offensive, hateful and racist statements were repeatedly made. Now, regardless of how much or how little you think of other politicians, I'm sure that if you followed them with a secret camera you wouldn't capture this sort of offensive, bile filled hatred.
Of course Nick Griffin can come across well on TV etc because that is him and his advisory team "editing" him to allow him to come across as more acceptable. But, if you'd bothered to watch the whole documentary you'd see his true colours. For example going to Keighley, knowing that the area was touch-paper sensitive and addressing a meeting in the hope of inciting a riot (his words). Then at the meeting blaming a series of rapes on the Asian community because he'd read in the Koran that it encourages muslim men to rape white women and it was part of their evil master plan (still sounding quite so good to you). This was despite the fact that no charges had been pressed and as many white men had been questioned as Asian men. You can't "edit" whole speeches into peoples' mouths.
Finally what the hell does indigenous mean? I'm of Hungarian stock on my Mother's side and my wife is half dutch.... are we indigenous? Come to think of it didn't a load of blokes come over from Scandinavia and Northern France in the Middle Ages... wait a minute didn't we all migrate out of Africa?
This argument isn't about why people voted for the BNP (or didn't vote). That's bloody obvious given the current state of the country but I don't believe a lot of people knew who or what they were voting for. It's about the simple question is racism wrong? If the answer is yes then the BNP is also wrong, as senior members hold racist views, and doesn't deserve to be viewed as a genuine political party.
Re: Makes you proud to be Brit
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Originally Posted by
christopher leigh
One last point Heathens. If you continue to lie and misrepresent my views you'll find your world crashing round around you.
Priceless! He thinks he can scare me with empty theats. It's all in print Christopher Leigh - I'm not misrepresenting anything.
I really wouldn't make any more threats like that though.