[QUOTE=grifter;535346]Video of todays race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyUrh...e_gdata_player Missed the last few runners due to battery running out.[/QUOTE
Great video, thanks Grifter :)
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[QUOTE=grifter;535346]Video of todays race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyUrh...e_gdata_player Missed the last few runners due to battery running out.[/QUOTE
Great video, thanks Grifter :)
Yet again another fantastic effort in the organisation of this great race thanks again. Only one downside to the day was the Todmorden Harrier, I think I caught his name being Wayne, running past a long line of us patient runners waiting in a queue for the stile and pushing in at the front. He was asked by several of us as to what he was doing and even his own club mates told him to get back but he just looked round and went over, it was an act of pure arrogance and very selfish of him. I hope his club mates have had a word with him as it could reflected badly on his club. I also think it was good of the clayton runner to report this to the organiser who brought it to everyone's attention at the prize giving as we don't need this type of arrogance in our sport and surely the name and shame approach will help stop future occurrences.
That stile together with the kissing gate at Buttocks, so soon after the start, were always going to cause frustration amongst the queueing runners.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweaty
Same thing happened at that kissing gate during the Stan Bradshaw Pendle Round a few weeks ago where a runner climbed the gate, oblivious(?) to the fact that we were all (im)patiently queueing, and ignoring shouts to queue like everyone else.
It's an unfortunate situation in such a large field of runners. Ideally there would be an open gate to see the runners onto the fell and I believe the race organiser has said that he will make the effort to effect this for next year's race.
All I can say that if the same queueing situation happens in future races then woe betide anyone trying the same trick if Sumo's in the queue!
I've been thinking about this. I've done the Full Tour the last 2 years and they stay on the road a little longer and go through a gate to get the other side of the wall that runs up to Buttock from the reservoir.Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
Then run up the hill on the West side of the wall and through a full gate rather than the kissing gate.
Somebody tell me if I'm imagining that or not, as it would seem a good solution to a problem that's been around for the last 3 years as the race has become more popular.
That route would be better Richard. You could also go past that lane and go up the last climb on the stan Bradshaw route.
That's the same gate that was locked at the Stan Bradshaw and Saturday's race, the kissing gate is next to that gate. And there's a new fence/gate next to the house at Buttocks, that was locked too, that's why we had to use the stile to the right of the house. The main problem is that the gates are locked so acquiring a key for each gate will be the answer. I think the race organiser, David Bailey, is on with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
I totally agree and I was one of many who also asked him to stop. I think it does reflect badly on the club and fellrunning in general, especially when wearing the club vest. It really winds me up when you run your hardest to join the back of an orderly queue and individuals completely disrespect this. That aside, thanks to everyone for organising a brilliant event.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweaty
Bit harsh Steve saying 'it reflects bad on the club' I slipped going over the first style and was helped up and over by a Tod Harrier so they're not all bad, it's not the clubs fault they have a one member with no brain, but hey now we all know his name and how he looks from the pictures lets flog him and whip him at the next race he's at and then ban him from 2014 fell races for being stupid and ugly :w00t:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigfish
There was also a runner from Burnden (AC?) in a grey / red piped vest who jumped the queue from behind me. I didn't ask him to stop ~ I yelled ''Oy get back, there's a queue!!''. Others in the queue also joined in my shouts as he looked round sheepishly:o. Eventually he did get back, but only just behind me. Who are these runners that think they have the right to jump queues. I know it's often frustrating to queue at stiles but it's the same for everyone ~ unless you're fit enough to get there before everyone else :D. Come on guys, it's an open race on a nice sunny afternoon ~ don't spoil the fun by cheating on your mates (if you still have any left). Ejit :thunbdown:
There is a serious racing issue here with the stile or gates other than a bit of joshing.
The ladies are integrated in the mens race and OK at the front end the men chasing the top 10 - 20 places are least affected, but by the time you get down to the first few ladies the queue is already forming.
If you are male athlete behind another male athlete, the delay caused by the stile is a few seconds per place, easily made up. But if you are a lady in the queue with 10 men between you and your rival in front, you lose a bucket load of time.
If it takes 3 secs per runner to get through the style, with 340 runners that's around 17 mins for everyone to get through the stile - and let's say at that point the front end is separated from the back by 10 mins, the back marker will potentially lose 7 minutes.
Or TL=P*21/17
where TL=Time lost in seconds and P = your position at the stile.
Mrs WP reckoned she queued for 4 minutes.
So if there was 15 places and 15 seconds between 2 ladies at the stile going up, that could be 35 seconds coming away from the style.
So the funnel effect stretches out the time gaps very early in the race making it very difficult for the ladies to pull back through the field.
I know David is going to try and sort this for next time, but I think the Full Tour gate and accessing the key to that is the answer as the old double gate is almost as bad as the stile.