What rough ground! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Corniceman
really enjoyed it, especially after grey friar (although that was better than expected), but I am a sucker for a lovely smooth ridge run!
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What rough ground! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Corniceman
really enjoyed it, especially after grey friar (although that was better than expected), but I am a sucker for a lovely smooth ridge run!
The descent from The Old Man is pretty rough, as is the final descent - for my legs anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by ba-ba
Agree Mike. My ankles didn't like the traverse around Brim Fell nor the descent off The Old Man. They didn't particularly like the first grassy descent off White Pike either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I've pushed them to the back of my mind and focused on the lovely smooth running from Swirl Howe round to White Pike (less a bit down to Goat's Hawse)!
Great race - went over on my ankle coming off Swirl How and found the rest of the contouring a nightmare. Also ended up with a massive blister on my big toe (same foot) which I think was due to trying to keep my ankle straight. Capped it off with cramp after getting my foot caught in the mud in the last field. Really enjoyed it though!!
Any Results yet???
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Originally Posted by Corniceman
Over Brim Fell is better than around it, having tried both routes. Over involves a little bit more up, but it is all lovely and smooth with no sideways tilt.
... and the distance is shorter too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I reckon that you only save about 20m of climbing by going round Brim Fell.
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Harry Atkinson 'flying' down the final descent.
...and afterwards
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Excellent photo. Are there others up on a site anywhere?
Great race, will definitely be up to do it again next year. The climb up Grey Friar was punishing but I loved the descent off the top towards Swirl How, but my favourite part was probably the descent off The Old Man. My legs had gone too much to enjoy the main descent from White Pike - maybe I can enjoy that next year when I have a bit more endurance in me.
I think I'd try the main path over Brim Fell next time. Might be a touch more climbing but the running must be faster on the easier ground and without the sideways tilt.
Sorry Ron, I only took a few photos on Saturday of family and friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron247
There's photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/hhac/se...th/9487411254/
Thanks. Great pics, but I need to work on my style as the only one of me looks like I'm playing aeroplanes as I'm running down the hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammy
Anybody know anything about when and where results will go up?
I drove to the race via Ambleside but as a matter of interest did anyone go this way (Greenodd) and what was the traffic like ?Quote:
Originally Posted by brett
Went via A590 towards Greenodd and took the small road that cuts across to Spark Bridge, no problems at all, probably five minutes slower than normal route. Didn't check out the road works though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf
What a great route and race, thanks to all involved.
Thanks :thumbup: I was just wondering about further trips up that way this year and early next. Looks like they have improved traffic conditions now though.Quote:
Originally Posted by boghobbit
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/traffi...nodd-1.1076700
I think my Tom Tom took me via that pub you mention without me asking it to, which was nice. Had no problems at all.
The more I think about it, the better the race was. Easily the best medium I've done (and I've done at least two). Great campsite, great cakes, gorgeous route, great cakes.
Well worth a recce just to appreciate how nice it is as it's hard to do that when you're racing.
(Thanks for sharing the pics as well, by the way.)
We also took the small road via Spark Bridge, no problems. Just a problem with the race, getting round the bloody thing !Quote:
Originally Posted by boghobbit
Great race great weekend away many thanks to all for sorting this out, had a fall coming down last decent (Richter scale measured 3.2) so that put paid to racing on Sunday, so we Stayed in Grasmere ended up in Dale Lodge Hotel with a really good band on and got completely hammered.
The worst is now over, with contra-flow in place on a temporarily widened carriageway on the A590 and only traffic joining from the A5092 controlled by lights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf
A few photos here.
I was on the Dow Crag check point where it was more important to take number than photos so there aren't as many photos as I would have liked but there we are.
I had a glance at some the discussion about "folded numbers on shorts" on another thread and I did wonder, a little about the fuss but I learned a couple of lessons on Saturday - folded numbers are much, much more difficult to read. Numbers on shorts are even more difficult to read and folded numbers on shorts are even worse. In some instances with folded numbers on shorts it was possible to see only 1 of up to 3 digits of the race number. Fortunately it was a clear, bright, dry day in less benign conditions it would have been very difficult see race numbers.
Now I strongly support the idea of prohibiting folded numbers and insisting that numbers are pinned to vests rather than shorts - oh, and pay attention to where you bumbag/rucksack straps are: across your race number isn't ideal :-)
Great photos Jammy. Hope the Ambleside runner number 134 is ok after that spectacular fall!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammy
Really enjoyed this race - just wanted to say thanks to the RO, marshals, volunteers, etc. for a great effort. Will be back to support next year.
Ian, I agree that is is hard as a marshall to see numbers that are folded and pinned to shorts, we even had a few runners in the Borrowdale race this year pin their numbers to their backs! All those people who pin their numbers to their shorts need to have a little spell at marshalling to see how difficult it is and how important for the marshall to see their number and to get it written down. All it needs is one brave race organiser (Ian Hodgson organiser!) to disqualify all runners who haven't got their number pinned to their vest! If Robert Jebb has enough room to pin his number to his vest (which he always does) then everyone has. With regards folding numbers down I do agree that some numbers are big but sponsors pay to have their names on the numbers i.e, they want them to be seen! People say they flap about,
solution - one pin in each corner and one in the middle. Keep taking the great photos Ian.
Anyone know where results will be posted?
On the FRA website, when they're ready and posted!Quote:
Originally Posted by coldsteel50
Patience my friend....
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Originally Posted by Ella
After the furore and whinging about on the other thread about the "new rules," I was much more concious about making my number as visible as possible to all the marshals, as best as I could. I tried to make it as flat and readable at each CP as I could, following Jebby's example from the Borrowdale video that someone posted last week. Hopefully it helped.Quote:
Originally Posted by IWCharters
I do think that all those who whinge (and it is whinging) about the clarifications and "making the sport more complicated" do need to go and marshal or see first hand why some of these clarifications are needed.
Anyway, thanks to the RO and all the marshals (tried to say thanks as I went round, but was suffering badly after the Old Man). Cracking race route and maybe I'll be back next year to do it justice. I was woeful on Saturday - ropey stomach again!
Although a bit odd, with numbers on good paper this works well. Crush the whole thing as small as you can into a little ball, then straighten it back out and pin it as normal. It will be badly creased but it stops the wind catching it as bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ella
Yes, I do this as well and it works. You just have to remember to straighten the number out at CPs to make sure that it's clearly readable for the marshals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Lucker
And easier to read than a small, folded, number on a moving target on shorts or leg!
I think that some people pin a number to their shorts if they intend to run topless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ella
Read your number,
Remember your number,
SHOUT your number to the Marshals (They do appreciate it)
thats exactly what I did !not rocket science reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
That's exactly what I do and I thought I was mad. Phew, the relief (either that i'm not mad or there are at least two mad people around)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Lucker
This is what I do, it doesn't take much does it.
On a couple of really hot races last year I ran topless and used insulating tape to stick the number to my chest and stomach. No worries.
Three :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Smith
I am a RO and sometimes weather depending pin my number to my shorts normally un folded and right across the front of my shorts not on the leg. ive never had a problem in reading no's on shorts at cp's, Scoffer Borrowdale RO / others more often than not runs vestless with his no on his shorts guess he doesn't see it as an issue either. Jebby is sponsored by inov8 to run in his new white inov8 vest, Simon booth often runs vestless Rhys is another of many of the top runners that often run vestless. as I said in the safety rules post 1st man and woman would of been dq'ed under the new rules at Borrowdale this yr under the numbers issue!!!! I suspect there may be the odd "jobsworth" RO'S that may dq runners but on the hole I guess there will be little change, for instance how many times do you see "random kit checks will be made" I run 30 - 40 times a yr and the last time I was randomly checked was at Langdale 2 yrs ago! though some races check at registration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ella
Sounds like I've really missed out on the exciting discussion elsewhere regarding the new rules on race numbers...
I often fold one half of my number over but make sure the sponsor is visible once. Also pin on after I've got my bum-bag on so it's not obscured and comfy (and I scrunch it).
Anyway, enough of such fun stuff! Many thanks to the organiser, marshalls etc. for an enjoyable day. I try and say thanks as I go but was pretty head-down from Swirl Howe onwards
Interesting at this race as there I was complying with every rule going and a marshal shouts, what's your number? Your straps are covering it. Hadn't occurred to me before, but my bum bag straps were obscuring some of the number. So there's that to consider as well. And it's not really enough to say make sure your straps aren't over your number as the numbers can be quite big, and with getting gels etc mid-race it can easily get a bit covered even if it wasn't at first.
Just something else to consider along with all the rest of it. Does make you wonder about the fuss being made, though. And surely a number on shorts is better than a number under a waterproof top, which seems to be accepted as far as I can make out.
There's been quite a few references to Jebby at Borrowdale. Who's to say he wasn't being a tad mischievous and smoothing down his number as if to say, 'Can you see it yet, you old rogues?' Just a thought. There's even been reference made to Ricky Lighfoot's shadow! Crikey. Did he stop and stretch out his shorts? Yes, we've reviewed the footage and that's definitely the shadow of a man pulling at his shorts so the marshals can have a good look.
Ps, shame this is taking over the race thread and isn't being confined to The Forum's tribute to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest: the New Safety Rules thread.
Aye, someone should start a thread dedicated about it..
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Originally Posted by ba-ba
Ah, I was number 134. Presently typing with one hand due to a broken wrist, and I am glad the there isn't a photo of the moment I hit my head on a rock, resulting in a fractured cheekbone. Fortunately it's not as painful as it all sounds, though I'm off to hospital today to see about pinning the wrist. Must pay more attention to where I'm running in future.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Clough
Another vote for good pics- cheers.