Hmmm - yet more Christmas trees required?
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Hmmm - yet more Christmas trees required?
Last call to see if anyone fancies joining me for a recce tomorrow. Probably from Crowden & probably at the car park below the hostel from 9am.
Hi Sam there are a few of us doing the whole route from Marsden on our traditional Christmas recce! Starting at 7.30ish so should be at Crowden around 9. We will be slow though!
If I get myself to sleep shortly, I may well see you at Crowden or catch you up (optimistic!) at some point on the route. Hopefully be at Crowden car park from 9am (little silver van with orange light on top)
Sorry Sam misded this. Hope you had a hood one. Weather was pretty grim but had a great day out. The highlight was definitely the chrimbo tree on Kinder. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam W
Cheers, glad you had a good un!Quote:
Originally Posted by One-eyed Wonder
Aborted recce yesterday as blizzard conditions hit on Wain Stones - at least managed to look at both Pennine Way & Wildboar Clough as possible routes (latter preferable, though I'll likely be trying to hit Pennine Way sooner than I did.
Sort of recce today from Edale - undecided as to best way off Kinder.
Will be doing final recce on Friday 2nd January, probably from Snake Pass to final CP & then up as far as Wain Stones, via Higher Shelf trig, to try to get a idea of routes. As before, if anyone is keen then please get in touch.
Another bump - if anyone fancies joining me for a recce on Friday 2nd, please do get in touch. Open to going from either Crowden or Snake Pass, probably going as far as Kinder Downfall whichever way I go.
Quite a lot of snow covering the route at the moment so allow extra time for reccying. rain forecast for NY day and milder but I feel the snow will linger.
Thanks for the heads up, I shall certainly bear conditions in mind. Temperatures look to be increasing significantly but I suspect you're right. I'd rather frozen than boggy when it comes to race day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Running Man
If you can run up and down a lot and make a nice smooth path it would be appreciated...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam W
I'll be going up and over around 4 or 5th Jan
The new CP at Kinder Low provides interesting route choices for the run to the finish! What's your
plan?
To stay on the fell until well after Grindslow Knoll, and enjoy a day out on the fell.
I am assuming it is still a 'fell' race and has not been re-classified as 'trail'.
Going out Tuesday or Wednesday next week if any one wants a last look.
Ian - might join you, depending on how I get on tomorrow! Which section are you planning?
No snow to speak of on Kinder or Bleaklow yesterday. Fairly confident of the route up Withins Clough & from Wain Stones to Snake Pass via Higher Shelf.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Is it now definite that Kinder Gates is out of bounds on race day?
Probably 95% unless there is a very hard frost for a few daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam W
Andy could go any where as long as I go over Kinder. either from Edale or Snake whatever is easiest
Just after Crowden, where is the best place to take photos because EVERYBODY will take that particular route?
Half way up Lawrence Edge. PM Ian Darkpeak for a grid reference.
There isn't a route choice away from that? Roughly, what time would you expect the first runner to be there? Thanks for the info Rodders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodders
There isn't a route choice away from that? Roughly, what time would you expect the first runner to be there? Thanks for the info Rodders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodders
well nearly EVERYONE.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtothefells
Try at the top of the fence corner as you get crowden and the reservoirs in the back ground. It's where I was last year.
my album from last year from that point...young Mr Mann in the shot below
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I'm sure you will do it more justice Steve
There are three main route choices, if you want to photo as many as possible it would be better to head up to SK 07299 99634. On the path down from the quarry before the runners hit Crowden. If you were there for 60- 70 mins after the start you should catch most folk.
Snap IDP!
Problem might be parking at Crowden.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodders
The average winning time for the last 3 years has been 3 hours 15ish which is 10 minute mileing if that any use to you. I took a few snaps last year at Leyzing clough / Winter Clough and they were still quite bunched up. https://www.flickr.com/photos/980116...7639683507565/Quote:
Originally Posted by backtothefells
Thanks Mark. I was going to go to the trig point at Black Hill but border collie needs a good walk in the morning and I'm not sure that I'd get there in time with such an early set off.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Clough
So, going to try and get a quick look at PW down from Kinder and weigh up Crowden Tower, but with the weather as it is, and looking, may just stay on the path and avoid the Bog Monsters (there was one chasing me at Grin n Bear It this year...might still be hunting me)...There was talk of an extra CP at Kinder Low area, is this likely? I would like to think that we would all respect the wishes of the National Trust and stay off the Kinder Gates (one years' inconvenience for the sake of the future of the race - not a big ask), but a CP would ensure it, whilst still giving Fell option across to Grindslow...
Somebody mentioned in an earlier post that he was going to email nicky to find it this was possible (avoiding the wool packs) but nothing has ever appeared either here or on the race website. I just don't know if this is allowed or we have to head directly south from kinder low end to join the edge path and then either follow that the whole way to Crowden Tower or head down to the bottom of Jacob's Ladder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreaded Jeff
Can we do a straight line from Kinder Low end to the BOTTOM of Jacob's ladder?
Can somebody clarify this?
As I understand it unless there is a hard frost - and I imagine it would have to be incredibly hard, that there will be a check-point on Kinder Low so that there is no benefit in not using the path.
After that runners are expected to use the Pennine Way to either turn left along the skyline path to get to Crowden Tower or head to the top of Jacob's ladder. There is no mention of any restrictions about short-cuts round the woolpacks - I believe the work was done here a year or so ago.
I am assuming that the Kinder Low checkpoint will be mandatory and that we will all have to run as far as the main junction between Pennine Way and the Skyline path at Swines Back.
Met Office forecasting snow in Edale on Saturday night at 1•c. Given that it tends to be a good degree or so colder up on Kinder, there's probably a good chance of it settling on the tops. However, rain is forecast everyday, except Thursday, this week. Certainly going to make for interesting running on Bleaklow!
Which route do people take to get from Crowden towards Lawrence Edge. Looking at parking for photo taking.
There's a path from the road crossing at Crowden that leads to a bridge across the outflow of Woodhead reservoir and then up to the B6105 and the Longdendale Trail. There is a small parking space not far from there where the trail comes close to the bend on the B6105 just over the dam from the A628.
Thanks for that. Ian DP told me about the spot, wondered if it was easier to park at Crowden and then run to the "snap" point.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheRun
Thanks for that. Ian DP told me about the spot, wondered if it was easier to park at Crowden and then run to the "snap" point.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheRun
**Lift opportunity**
I have a couple of spare seats in a minibus leaving Sheffield early Sunday morning going to Marsden. Depart 6am Dore railway station / 6:20am Hillsborough park. £10 single journey.
PM me if interested.
3 days of hard frost is looking unlikely now, so I suppose Kinder Low End is it then!
Snow looks a distinct possibility though, if Met Office forecast for Edale is anything to go by.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
Cold wet and windy, albeit with good visibility appears to be the order of the day.
please take a note of RO requirements re extra kit...above that required by FRA
It was on your entry form and on the website...
Torch, Survival/blanket bag, extra long sleeve thermal Check out website for exact requirements and get there early so Kit check team aren't late for the start...:D
no excuses....!