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Originally Posted by emmilou
Might as well talk to billy, and see if the race date can be changed, since the whole field is turning up!
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Originally Posted by emmilou
Might as well talk to billy, and see if the race date can be changed, since the whole field is turning up!
No problem. What colours do you prefer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Swiss Toni
1st pull out, local ball the night before that I had forgot about, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysinjured
Anyway Emmilou, my defection means the rest should now sqeeze in your tent!
im up 4 a recce anytime before august
Is anyone up for camping and a few pints the night before???????:eek:
id like to reccy it, i know its a while away, but time poss meeting up?
Egor, there is a reccie on the 23rd of June,
Good luck at the peaks this weekend, have a great run.
cheers, dont think it will be a great run, but hopefully bit quicker than last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
How much water does one need to take for the full route?
I notice that many of the runners in last year's race only had a bum bag so can't have carried much.
Camelbacks were in evidence further down the field. Is there anywhere to fill up on route?
(Dale Head Tarn, I know, but it might be a bit late by then!)
Water isnt a great problem swoopQuote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
In addition to others
Theres a stream you cross on the way from esk hause to broad crag
One on the way down the corridor
At or before sty head tarn
On the way down from grey knotts
On the way down from dalehead.
I was gonna get the mrs to meet me at Styhead and get a fresh bottle of water. Plus I can get a drink off her there too.
I take it this sort of thing goes on anyway?
I'm pleased about that. Will try it out on the recce. Thanks Mike.Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysinjured
Quite a few people tied bottles to the fence at the road crossing at the bottom of Dalehead last year. It's only a couple of miles along the Honister pass from the start by road, so it's easy to drop something off before the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme
I might do that and get the mrs to meet me at Styhead. The exercise will do her good.
You are assuming that we are going to have a wet May, June and July then are you ?Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysinjured
I bet there's not much water up there at the moment, and as for August , we've had some real scorching weather in the past.
The only guaranteed water is at the drinks station at Honister ~ but it might be too late by then Swoop. If you are a thirsty creature then take your Camelbak.
I would think most of the sources alwaysinjured pointed out would still be OK even in a very dry summer (if sprinkling tarn has dried up you may be in trouble :rolleyes: )
Bill
I've only just come to this thread. Not being very familiar with The Lakes, are there any other vertigo sufferers that can advise on the route for this race? Can you cope with it? I'm not sure about the Corridor Route, and are there any other parts of the route that might be tricky for a fellow sufferer?
I maybe free weekend June 23rd, and would probably enjoy the camping and few pints!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NotOnUrHelly
And would possibly enjoy the reccie!
I was going to spend the weekend up there, there again I haven't even mentioned it to the mrs that there's a recce that weekend, I wonder if I should just surprise her with a weekend away, the night before :)
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Originally Posted by Marvin
Hi Marvin
I suffer vertigo too! I "tracked" you for most of the 3 peaks,nothing much worse than that on the Borrowdale - Scree descent off Scafell Pike can be a bit daunting, you can run back down the path if not up to it. Err..that's it really.....Great Gable to Green Gable I get a bit 'twitchy' but nothing too bad.
To be honest, if Im walking them I am dreadful, race day I'm fine.
Huwski
Huwski,Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwski
You certainly hide it well!
I recall 'hooting and hollering' all the way down the scree off Scafell Pike last October with you (under a different name, of course) - you didn't let on then, did you!
MH;)
Erm.....Im assuming that all these water sources are safe to drink from ?? wouldnt want to complete the race all nice and hydrated, but then spend the next few days on the porcelain shooting it through the eye of a needle :mad::mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysinjured
Ah, I recognise you. I think you finally got me a mile or so from the finish of the 3 Peaks, but we swapped places several times on the way there. Thanks for the info. It sounds like I ought to do the recce on 23rd June, and hope for clag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwski
Originally Posted by emmilou http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/image...s/viewpost.gif
RECCE - 23RD JUNE
emmilou
Swoop
WhiteAbbo
Calf
Dom
Daz H
Sunnyside up
Wobblehead
Huwski
Always Injured
NOYH
Manhar
Slowcoach
Graeme
Holtie
Moo
Roger rabbit
Mud?
Milli?
Iandarkpeak??
Marvin
Any more for any more?
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Originally Posted by Marvin
You can also end up feeling a bit exposed on your left between Bessyboot and Glaramara, but can easily avoid it by going over the tops instead of round them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwski
The path down from before broad crag is a pretty steep gully too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huwski
If anyone has real qualms, I would hazard a guess that the walkers path back to lingmell then branching off for the corridor, is not only less twitchy, but I doubt if there is more than a few seconds in it: it is scarecly 100m further
Hey up MH, you're around then; just remember, adrenaline is brown matey!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Hare
Slippery Stones - Calf Cove,Spring on Gable and Stream below Dalehead tarn have never given me any ill effects - others have though!
Marvin - Had a rush of blood towards end of 3Peaks I think!
Please don't pray for clag! I hate running knowing there is a drop "somewhere" to my right, I'd rather see it and avoid it - see Muds' comments!
AlwaysInjured - 5mins dead...sorry killing 2 birds here - Dalehead Cairn to Stream adfter Dalehead tarn; Straight off edge, headed left to cut across path and then straight down...Measured on Garmin.
Bad guess. Make that 300m - just looked at map.Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysinjured
At a quick count it's looking likely that at least 21 of us will be trotting round - who's bringing the bbq??
I've ordered the sun to shine btw:D :D
i can carry the table and chairs
All the way up Scarfell Pike??:eek: :eek: (you may let you just take them to Great Gable instead:rolleyes: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by No pain no gain
A few posers. . .
Do those in the know say that to do one of these classic lakeland longs, you really need to do a proper recce?
What are the cut offs?
How much harder is Borrowdale than (a) Langdale and (b) 3 Peaks?
Still can't make my mind up. Do I start to crank up the miles? Is mere mileage sufficient?
Any thoughts. . .
TB,Quote:
Originally Posted by Tractorboy
In my book Borrowdale is probably the "best" of the long'ish Lakes fell races... but I would say that as it was my first fell race... is wends it's way thru' some of the most dramatic parts of the Lakes, in a way that is etched in your mind forever..
Significantly harder than Langdale, but not really a mega slog like Wasdale & Ennerdale; absolutely no comparison with 3 Peaks as the terrain is totally different.
For a person with some true mountaineering experience, who is a fair fell
runner too, plus a decent navigator, it hits all the right spots..
For a novice, it can be more than a little scary; a couple of close friends have been in tears of relief at the end!! (but grins soon ensued).
Not knowingly knowing you, or your background, it's hard to provide meaningful advice on a yes or no basis.... but, I'd say if you do have some "real" experience.... can read & understand a map and compass in pissing/freezing gale driven rain & sleet/in the densest of scudding clag, trot & prance around on the skiddiest of rocks, able to dodge the odd flying rock, take your brains out for quite a while.... you will have a fantastic time... with a post race bash that is rarely bettered...
And the rest will be his/herstory as they say..... see you there...
oh' and when I did do it for the first time, I did know most of the course from other adventures.... and still managed to go astray a bit!
recce planned for week of the 28th of may at some point will be staying at holllows farm campsite with family. might do first leg to styhead one day n styead onwards later.
I haven't posted on here for ages but the mention of Borrowdale has motived me to do so.
Of my memories of fell races Borrowdale sticks out as the best hands down.
Only recced Scar fell and that counted for nothing as the mist closed in so much I didn't recognise diddly when I got up there (plus I recced it at night, not such a good idea for recce but damn fun).
And then I followed a Scottish lass the wrong way just after Great Gable I think and got lost. Found another group after backtracking and then went and got lost with them too.
Completely died on the last climb up whatever the last climb is and struggled with the downhill from there which was the only time that ever happened in a race for me.
Ended up been the only race on a club champs I got beat on too.
BUT...what a brilliant race. Felt like I was on another planet in the mist at the bottom of all the stairs up Great Gable (think that's where the stairs are isn't it). And been all on my lonesome struggling round going up Scar fell while you could hear the leaders cranking down the scree was brilliant. And that run down the scree is damn good too.
Then on that last climb down whatitsname it was a completely different scene/feeling too.
Brilliant memory. Brilliant race. I could go on & on & on...
So my advice - if you can see only one movie this year: make it The Deer Hunter (cool, cool film)
If you can run only one race: make it the big B.
Scar fell :confused:. No wonder you got lost :rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Tractorboy, the only cut-off is Honister after 4 1/2 hours.
I agree with all that has been said about it - a cracking course and a great atmosphere. Can't make it this year, but hope to be back next year and not die on Dale Head - my experience last year was very like kiwi's.
Spot on 'Luv Shack' - saved me some typing... I run this route more than any other just because it has a bit of everythng in it - navigation wise I still haven't run the same route twice there really is so much variation - Even my avatar comes from the Borrowdale!Quote:
Originally Posted by gej
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Thanks for the tips/encoragement guys - am now committed!
Upping the miles and planning a recce (possibly the outing on the 23rd):)