Good grief!!!
Hope you are better soon neilly, that sounds awful!!
Regardless, well done for doing the right thing, even though it cost you plenty.
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Good grief!!!
Hope you are better soon neilly, that sounds awful!!
Regardless, well done for doing the right thing, even though it cost you plenty.
Hard luck but at least you did the right thing avoiding the old lady. Sounds like a similar incident to the one I posted on here somewhere where I tried to avoid a young family and ripped my knee and arm to shreds. A few weeks off will do you no harm and maybe evdn a godsend given the current weather! Hope you are on the mend soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by neilly
Post #73 has all the gory details....
https://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/show...oyal%20wedding
I seem to remember my optimism at being able to ride a bike afterwards was shortlived!
Haha., Yes driving to AE was tricky for me too. Stuck it in second and hoped that nobody got in the way. They were pulling out all sorts- bark, gravel, twigs. Poking around for ages. The lidocaine had worn off after a while and it smarted! When they started stitching it up my son, who had come to drive me home, said I went a funny colour and looked like I was going to faint.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
I once gashed my palm open on the descent from Scafell during Borrowdale. The only way I could stop the bleeding was to pick up a stone and hold it in my fist. After the finish it took a lot of juggling of bikes and campervan and lift from a friend to get to the A and E at Keswick. I'd previously rung to check they still had an A and E at the small cottage hospital. They were excellent in sorting me out and I mentioned not being sure if they were still open - the nurse said that they had been on the point of closure a year or two ago "and then people started mountain biking at Whinlatter" which had brought so much business the department was busier than ever and saved from closure.....
That's brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark G
I paid them a visit a couple of years ago as well. I was marshalling on Hopegill Head at the DazH race and gashed my hand on a razor-sharp rock on Whiteside as I made my way up to my marshalling point. Patched myself up using almost all the marshal's first-aid kit until after the race (my wife was racing, so I made sure she couldn't see all the blood as she ran past!) As with you, the Cottage Hospital staff were great.
On a less positive note I dislocated a finger falling on Robinson on a TWA reccie in the snow. This apparently minor injury then involved a trip to the GP and no less than 3 hospital visits. Not to mention various permutations of driving, bikes, trains (try booking your bike on a train due 4 hours after your appointment, you might just make it). While waiting in the hospital I got talking to a cyclist who had crashed and broken his arm - he said last time he dislocated a finger he pulled it straight and taped it to a lolly stick for a week or so. Job done. I'd be tempted to do the same if it happens again.
I slipped and fell at this year's Mountain Trial and when I got up noticed one of my little fingers was sticking out at a funny angle. I assumed I'd dislocated it and a fellow competitor suggested pulling it straight. I did the best I could but it still looked quite misshapen. My hand was pretty swollen the following day so I ended up going to the Minor injuries clinic at Bury hospital to get it checked out. They said it was probably broken, taped it to the next finger and said to keep it taped up for a couple of weeks. I was in and out fairly quickly but I'd be tempted to tape it up myself if it happened again and not bother with a hospital trip.
So I'm still recovering from my latest fall a few weeks ago after running down the Pennine way off Black hill into Crowden. A mere 2k from the campsite, I bit the dust and ended up with a sprained wrist & shoulder, broken finger and various cuts, grazes and bruises. Largely healed now but the mental scars remain and I wonder if I will be able to run as hard over rough terrain again. I know time is a great healer but I've had my fair share of falls over the years and thankfully managed to walk a way from them all but this latest has rattled me deeply and I'm lacking any kind of confidence running over even mildly technical terrain. Maybe it's just a symptom of my aging years and a sign to take it easier.
Thoughts?
Sorry to hear about your fall - it sounds like you were going quite fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
I trip and fall about once a week. When I go back to see what I tripped on it is usually only two to three inches above the surrounding ground, and one of many such protuberances. Avoiding them all would be virtually impossible, so my solution is to slow down, and wear gloves. Slowing down is of course not very useful if wanting to perform well in a race, or even in a competitive feeling club run.
Apart from sharing your sense of being rattled I am afraid I have no helpful answers.
Good luck with your recovery.
Likewise, sorry to hear about your mishap Pete. Similar to Mike I (when not off running due to injury) normally trip/fall every week or so. The vast majority have no significant impact. I do find that most of my "worst" fall related injuries occur when I am close to the end of run and tired, or not concentrating on running and thinking ahead to the finish. It seems reasonable that when I'm tired I don't pick my feet up as high and therefore am more likely to trip on those pesky upward protrusions.
Like you Pete, when coming back from a "bad one" I am usually much more circumspect/nervous when running at 'speed' over the rough stuff. I usually find that a combination of conciously picking up my feet and time helps me get back into stride. It might take me a few months to 'get over it' completely.
Don't tell anyone, but a 'near miss' fall was a factor in my deciding to focus on long and ultra races for while. The inherent slower pace was a good excuse not to have to go so fast over the dicey ground.
Thanks Mike. I guess with the miles you put in, a trip or fall once a week isn't surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
We revisited the scene of my mishap a few days after the event. The path was quite rough and rocky but I think it was the stump of an old metal fence post that really did for me.
I guess I really need to slow down and run more wisely when training....
Thanks. I'll be doing likewise for a while (though maybe not the ultra bit!)Quote:
Originally Posted by PiesAreGood
I'm sure there is a degree of tiredness in all my falls but I'm also a great believer in that there is a greater factor in risk compensation i.e we take more care when perceive a greater level of risk. My worst falls have all been near the end of run and usually on relatively flat ground.
Hard luck Pete. Coincidentally I also broke a finger running near Crowden. I was doing the Holme Moss race and descending to the stream before the climb to Laddow. Thought that I should speed up and immeadiatley fell over and landed on my stuck out finger. Should have taken my wedding ring off as it was a bugger to get off later when the finger was swollen.Finished the race though.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
That descent of the Pennine Way to Crowden is lethal. I gave up trying to run any of it years ago. Walking is so relaxing anyway. :) Another dangerous part is the bog at the beginning of the short stretch of flagstones where every unsuspecting runner puts their last step. A gouged shin and smashed knee are guaranteed.
The tarmac lane between Crowden and the A628 nearly did for me one evening!Quote:
Originally Posted by BritNick
Unlike Mike T and PiesAreGood, I fall over rather rarely, due to usually taking care where I'm putting my feet. This may be correlated with my dreadfully slow speed on the downhills in races!
However, I did fall over on a walk (not a run) last week; hurrying to get home because I was desperate for the loo, tripped over a tree root and came down on the only bit of concrete on the whole walk (a little bridge over a stream). A couple of nearby dog-walkers assumed that the loudness of my screaming was due to serious injury, when in fact it was just due to annoyance.
I have sprained ankles on several occasions, but the most severe was done on a kerb in town.
Sorry to hear of you mishap PeteQuote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
But as a fatalist I just figure what will be will be and just get on with what I enjoy and try to learn from my mishaps without lengthy reflection on them, however I do try not to tempt fate;) and use my past experiences to remain focused on the now without my mind wandering from what I am currently handling, particularly important when tired.
Thanks John. I do try to be philosophical about these things and on reflection, I was probably far more gung-ho than I should of been on terrain that was a) relatively unfamiliar and b)'lethal' if you get it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnK
So I will learn from this and move on but I guess the more often these things happen, the more prevalent the thoughts of "what if it goes really wrong" becomes and we all know that running fast over tricky terrain is all about confidence. Maybe that's not a bad thing though - this has at least taught me that I should take more care and as you say, not tempt fate.
Sorry to hear about your fall Pete and the injuries you sustained.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
Yes, confidence is an important element, but I was wondering whether some light weight training might help. As someone who is erm...also definitely advancing in my own years, I'm aware that muscle tone, etc, can slacken off as we inexorably shuffle our way towards the door marked 'exit' ( :D ) Weight training helps maintain our proprioception and general balance and, supposedly, helps us to catch ourselves, even unconsciously, before we list too far from the vertical and catch ourselves before we hit the dirt if we do stumble!
Have a speedy recovery.
Thanks - appreciate the support from everyone on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mossdog
Weights are something I've not really used but I have considered including them in my training of late especially as I've had to give up climbing/bouldering which I guess filled that gap before.
I already need to do about 30 minutes of daily physio which keeps my core in shape and strengthens those areas which these days, are sadly waning!
So I'll need to think through how I balance that with any additional weight training but definitely worth considering.
Strength training advocate for 'mature' people, with some pointers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT3-wonZR2QQuote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
No need for weights :-Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
https://betterme.world/articles/bodyweight-vs-weights/
https://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/the...-out-anywhere/
Just utilise your body weight/imagination and the gym that nature provides us with and train where ever and whenever you want to, for me there is nothing like a spur of the moment al fresco workout to break up a walk or run.
Hope all goes well for you.
I fell over a fair few years ago and broke my arm/elbow. However, I did what all proper runners do and got up and finished the run, had a bath, etc before going to hospital.
Last Saturday I fell over again at the top of the crazy hill in the Cliffe Castle Park Run. Can still barely move my shoulder, knee still swollen from the fall, and ankle/achilles on the other foot still swollen. I've still no idea how I managed to fall, and somersault several times in the way that I did, but two lovely ladies I'd just lapped picked me up, gave me a bit of TLC, and I was on my way.
I have regular slips and slides, but every few years I have a truly epic fall.
Rob, this sounds very like my falling over episode at Duddon earlier in the year. A loop of old fencing wire took me down and I fell with outstretched arms, I heard the crack of the breaking bone as I hit the desk. It was a fracture of the radial head in my left elbow and like you I finished the race, stayed overnight in my van and went to hospital next day. Still can't straighten it properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobGrillo
Sounds like my break whilst coming off Robinson. I had screws fitted to put my elbow back together. 2 weeks later I was fell walking in Majorca with a large pot on and fell again. The pot was crushed and the screws bent so no chance of a straight arm now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
That's taking working from home too far. Hit the desk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyn P
Fell hard today at langdale, first biggun in 14y of fell running. It won't put me off, but I must remember to keep my eyes on the floor when it's rocky.
My leg is killing.
Today may heve been a bad day! I was running Withens Skyline and fell three times! Luckily none too bad and no blood. Seemed to affect those around me. Woman in front of me did a lovely full body fall into a peaty hole - I think she may well need a shower. Another guy passing me (very polite - Coming through on the right) totally blew it and did a full somersault(sp).
Lovely race - don't know why I've never done it before, and I beat Dave! My wife was pleased to receive two Curly wurly's,